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    theyadoreyuki
    wrote on 21 Oct 2023, 05:37 last edited by theyadoreyuki
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    I have recently discovered something called PCSS (NGSS) for booth models! The shadows and shading makes the avatar look very clean itself but I am having issues setting it up. I had everything set up and even changed some settings but nothing seemed to change for my avatar. I have tried looking on Youtube and Twitter if anyone has posted a tutorial on how to do this but found nothing! I am still very much lost. If anyone is willing to help me I would be so grateful! ❤

    EXAMPLE
    FzaaZYaagAE2Y2c.jpg
    Basically what I am going for but need help setting up! ^^
    Can give you my discord if it's easier for you!

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      Finn
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      wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 06:33 last edited by
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      i'm gonna bump it, we need more information on how to make it really worth it

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        Bryan
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        wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 14:41 last edited by
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        You'll have to wait a tiny bit for the avatar on Unity to reflect the change as every material on it changes, no naturally it takes some time for the editor to figure out what's going on, but you should be good to upload nonetheless.
        If it doesn't make any difference even after upload though, then maybe it's a bug or something.

        Next-gen Soft Shadow is required if you want a big change though

        Don't hesitate and dm me if an asset I uploaded has a dead link

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          22 Oct 2023, 14:41

          You'll have to wait a tiny bit for the avatar on Unity to reflect the change as every material on it changes, no naturally it takes some time for the editor to figure out what's going on, but you should be good to upload nonetheless.
          If it doesn't make any difference even after upload though, then maybe it's a bug or something.

          Next-gen Soft Shadow is required if you want a big change though

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          theyadoreyuki
          wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 19:36 last edited by theyadoreyuki
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          @Lizuap I have both PCSS (NGSS) and installed both into unity, even found someone's personal settings for their shading and shadows for this feature. I had unity opened for maybe 3 hours while I was working on other things because someone did tell me it takes a while but nothing changed whatsoever. I wish there was a YouTube video explaining it more in depth on how to set things up. Tried joining their server and everything was in Japanese, tried using translator but I still ended up confused. :<

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            22 Oct 2023, 06:33

            i'm gonna bump it, we need more information on how to make it really worth it

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            theyadoreyuki
            wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 19:37 last edited by
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            @Finn I agree! I wish the creator made a YouTube or gave instructions when purchasing the items on how to properly use it but I am still confused on how people make their avatars look like this.

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              wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 20:05 last edited by
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              from what i used it for a while, the main thing is to tweak the lightning radial, light over 50% seems like kinda burning too much.
              Also, this is just a theory, but it seems that many are just using the unity editor and not the game to make those kind of picture, the light + movement doesn't like someone doing the pose in a world

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                22 Oct 2023, 20:05

                from what i used it for a while, the main thing is to tweak the lightning radial, light over 50% seems like kinda burning too much.
                Also, this is just a theory, but it seems that many are just using the unity editor and not the game to make those kind of picture, the light + movement doesn't like someone doing the pose in a world

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                theyadoreyuki
                wrote on 23 Oct 2023, 01:14 last edited by
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                @Finn I have both PCSS (NGSS) and I saved someone's settings for the Manuka model that I am currently working on and I copied everything but nothing change for my avatar, everything looks the same. There's no shading or shadows, it looks exactly the same and that's what I am currently stuck on.

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                  bdawg
                  wrote on 23 Nov 2023, 01:14 last edited by
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                  Currently struggling with this Shader as well, does anyone have any helpful info on it? Wanted to start using this on my models but the information is super limited and I'd like to have this work^

                  xoxo

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                    23 Oct 2023, 01:14

                    @Finn I have both PCSS (NGSS) and I saved someone's settings for the Manuka model that I am currently working on and I copied everything but nothing change for my avatar, everything looks the same. There's no shading or shadows, it looks exactly the same and that's what I am currently stuck on.

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                    bdawg
                    wrote on 23 Nov 2023, 03:07 last edited by
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                    @theyadoreyuki
                    Do you still have the settings and would you mind sharing them? ^^ ❤

                    xoxo

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                      maarurung
                      wrote on 21 Dec 2023, 02:08 last edited by
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                      bumping this post cause I've had the same isuse

                      MOE FTW

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                        喵茶小姐
                        wrote on 6 Jan 2024, 05:32 last edited by
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                        bump

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                          wrote on 22 Jan 2024, 22:13 last edited by
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                          Bumping because i also have issues

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                            HarleyQuinnVR
                            wrote on 28 Jan 2024, 17:21 last edited by
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                            Inside unity I see the changes, inside vrchat I dont, I am using the poiyomi version, nothing in the gesture manager or inside vrchat radial menu changes anything to my avatar. I like the shading but no clue how to get it to work

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                              maarurung
                              wrote on 28 Jan 2024, 23:05 last edited by
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                              bump again

                              MOE FTW

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                                15984
                                wrote on 3 Feb 2024, 02:00 last edited by
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                                bump pls me want use this :((

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                                  Exceed
                                  wrote on 20 Mar 2024, 19:39 last edited by
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                                  Bump - Need an answer

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                                    fenicheart
                                    wrote on 21 Mar 2024, 15:54 last edited by
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                                    bump

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                                      dragonash2023
                                      wrote on 24 Mar 2024, 21:45 last edited by
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                                      maybe this will help for most of you Poiyomi users like me.
                                      But PCSS is kind of broken for Poi and with the language barrier of the creator and popularity of liltoon, I haven't seen a fix yet. You don't even have a context menu (right click) so solo convert poi materials like you do with liltoon.

                                      Anyway, here is a possible fix that I used for myself. This works with unity 2019 and maybe a not too recent version of PCSS. I'll copy and paste from my post from other forums


                                      Ok, small update for those of you who are using Poiyomi for this (like me). The version of PCSS here is either dated or there is a newer version we dont have yet. Due to that, the NGSS option will not work and you get the error above.

                                      The issue is, poiyomi no longer is located in the "assets" folder and is now located in the "packages" folder. Also, some sub folders have been rename.

                                      To fix it, open the "PCSS4VRC_poi.cs" file in Microsoft Visual Basic or Notepad++
                                      Go to line 421 and change the path (copy and paste this whole line) **(line number may change in future updates)

                                      string Path = @"Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/ShaderOptimizer.cs";

                                      Save the file and run it again. Should work now.

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                                        24 Mar 2024, 21:45

                                        maybe this will help for most of you Poiyomi users like me.
                                        But PCSS is kind of broken for Poi and with the language barrier of the creator and popularity of liltoon, I haven't seen a fix yet. You don't even have a context menu (right click) so solo convert poi materials like you do with liltoon.

                                        Anyway, here is a possible fix that I used for myself. This works with unity 2019 and maybe a not too recent version of PCSS. I'll copy and paste from my post from other forums


                                        Ok, small update for those of you who are using Poiyomi for this (like me). The version of PCSS here is either dated or there is a newer version we dont have yet. Due to that, the NGSS option will not work and you get the error above.

                                        The issue is, poiyomi no longer is located in the "assets" folder and is now located in the "packages" folder. Also, some sub folders have been rename.

                                        To fix it, open the "PCSS4VRC_poi.cs" file in Microsoft Visual Basic or Notepad++
                                        Go to line 421 and change the path (copy and paste this whole line) **(line number may change in future updates)

                                        string Path = @"Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/ShaderOptimizer.cs";

                                        Save the file and run it again. Should work now.

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                                        Finn
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                                        wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 00:07 last edited by Finn
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                                        @dragonash2023 hi !
                                        also another problem that can be fixed via the .cs file
                                        if you have an error related to Thry saying not good version
                                        go in the same file
                                        line 82 : if (Thry.Config.Singleton.verion != "2.43.3")
                                        change the number by the version you have on the error
                                        reload, and everything should work

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                                          RaZe_blitz
                                          wrote on 6 Apr 2024, 14:29 last edited by
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                                          Bumping because I also want to know how to work it.

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