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  • minene-uryuM minene-uryu

    Yeah, they are searching for a base on public avatars and then they sent out mass DMCA claims against them.

    if you follow the vn3 of the base you're using, you should be fine

    MillieloveshoneyM
    MillieloveshoneyM
    Millieloveshoney
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    @minene-uryu Thats the part that I have learnt today. I had no idea that it wasn't okay to make these avatars public. But that doesnt matter as that wont excuse. As I am personally reacting to potential misuse of DMCA laws rather than the platform being in the wrong. As they are trying to protect themselves. But if I am not mistaken, private avatars can still be taken down? And that is another part that really sucks. Because as said, vrchat isn't the place I have an issue with. Its the law in it's self. At least the moderators informed me in the comment section. I can be grateful for that

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    • minene-uryuM
      minene-uryuM
      minene-uryu
      wrote on last edited by
      #4

      To be fair, when i had my run in with them, they never contacted me, just DMCA claimed an avatar i had on Public, because i used it on an alt account with visitor rank and forgot about it.
      also checking their twitter, recently they changed the wording in their report tweets from 違法 (illegal) to 海賊版 (Pirated + Version, kinda like Pirated Copies, or more likely Pirated Avatars in this case). Could also be, that they changed their approach nowadays

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      • AonixA
        AonixA
        Aonix
        wrote on last edited by Aonix
        #5

        Funny how you mentioned, an Shinano edit to look like Miyabi seemed to be taken down maybe for the same reason, Like I understand its literally written on the TOS of the avatar itself, and I wouldn't want to get in trouble with DMCA copyright stuff, I assume that VRChat just straight bans your avatar if fall under those infractions cause its easier than actually making something fair

        Companies like VRChat does that to avoid being part of the problem, i know theres an term for that kind of situation.
        But for Private Avatars.? I haven't heard that happening, maybe its an coincidence someone reported you for any reason??

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        • TyeXOT
          TyeXOT
          TyeXO
          wrote on last edited by TyeXO
          #6

          Dude this just happened to one of my public models. I got DMCA by them as well. The model of mine that got taken down was Milltina base, so no its not a base thing. Perhaps a clothing item? Its just extreme cause my shit was HEAVILY edited which gives me the right to post shit as my own work but oh well.

          I collect shit and I share shit, lets all shit together :D

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          • TyeXOT TyeXO

            Dude this just happened to one of my public models. I got DMCA by them as well. The model of mine that got taken down was Milltina base, so no its not a base thing. Perhaps a clothing item? Its just extreme cause my shit was HEAVILY edited which gives me the right to post shit as my own work but oh well.

            IŪI
            IŪI
            IŪ
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @TyeXO Most Items on booth have a TOS, milltina for example has a "Permission for use
            by third parties within the online service" and clothing items themselves also have one most of the time, in general any booth base avatar can get taken down as long as it doesn't follow all TOS of the items

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            • IŪI IŪ

              @TyeXO Most Items on booth have a TOS, milltina for example has a "Permission for use
              by third parties within the online service" and clothing items themselves also have one most of the time, in general any booth base avatar can get taken down as long as it doesn't follow all TOS of the items

              TyeXOT
              TyeXOT
              TyeXO
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              @offonoff Oh im well aware of all that, difference is, that's just a expected guideline and most, and I do mean MOST creators, 99.9% of creators just don't enforce that shit because its just- pointless. I run a booth shop, and in my TOS, it says ;

              You ARE NOT allowed to:

              ・Do not re-sell. [Even if you modify].
              ・Do not claim credit for this product.
              ・Do not share this product. Instead, send them to this page to help further support my work!

              I see my shit leaked on here and you don't see me crying about it throwing out DMCAs left and right. I just observe, and sometimes ill even answer peoples questions when it comes to what items/other assets I used in showcases.

              To DMCA users for sharing a PUBLIC model, for no income, even after said user edited whatever was used- to me- that's a power trip. I have better things to do with my time instead of doxing myself over pixels lmao.

              I collect shit and I share shit, lets all shit together :D

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              • BumpetteB
                BumpetteB
                Bumpette
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                just got a letter myself. kind of peaked around. what a waste of energy. mine was an old kikyo that was flagged. guess thats the only difference. Anyone contact them through the provided email? that shit looked generic AF.

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                • BumpetteB Bumpette

                  just got a letter myself. kind of peaked around. what a waste of energy. mine was an old kikyo that was flagged. guess thats the only difference. Anyone contact them through the provided email? that shit looked generic AF.

                  TyeXOT
                  TyeXOT
                  TyeXO
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  @Bumpette I haven't responded as like you said, what a waste of time. Someone's just on a power trip, let em trip.

                  I collect shit and I share shit, lets all shit together :D

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                  • lunaloserL
                    lunaloserL
                    lunaloser
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                    #11

                    i just got one yesterday for shinano and chocolat 😞

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                    • leifL
                      leifL
                      leif
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      Had like 10 shinanos taken down lol. is what it is just gonna reupload w no tags

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                      • amanekoA
                        amanekoA
                        amaneko
                        wrote on last edited by amaneko
                        #13

                        I just had this happen, including my world. 3 models were struck by the infamous "Yasuo Shiga" with no further information on which asset was causing the issue. They also reported one for being NSFW (which it isn't, there's an in-between and loading state where, to some other players, it appears naked), and I am suspended for 3 days, so I can't even take anything down before they strike me again. Mine was all Milfy bases.

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                        • amanekoA amaneko

                          I just had this happen, including my world. 3 models were struck by the infamous "Yasuo Shiga" with no further information on which asset was causing the issue. They also reported one for being NSFW (which it isn't, there's an in-between and loading state where, to some other players, it appears naked), and I am suspended for 3 days, so I can't even take anything down before they strike me again. Mine was all Milfy bases.

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                          mel1242
                          wrote on last edited by mel1242
                          #14

                          @amaneko @jacepace

                          look this "Yasuo Shiga"
                          https://forum.ripper.store/post/1222202

                          If you check the follow list, the employer (creator) will be visible. Upload those public avatar requires some precautions. For example, avoid using names or thumbnails that directly suggest the original avatar.

                          (e.g., Shinano → SNAN or 信濃)

                          In Japan, users and creators tend to place strong importance on manners and community norms, and they often try to encourage people to legitimately purchase avatars, outfits, and other items on BOOTH. When they learn that assets are being shared illegally, they tend to form a common enemy and attempt to impose social sanctions.

                          Because of that, sites that distribute assets like the ones here are extremely valuable to me, and the idea of going out of my way to purchase them feels completely ridiculous.

                          Just like in Grand Theft Auto V, let’s steal the assets, throw them into a duffel bag, and share them with the people who want them.

                          In particular, when playing VRC, you should be careful about entering worlds that have a large number of Japanese users.

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                          • puppiP
                            puppiP
                            puppi
                            wrote on last edited by puppi
                            #15

                            quick rundown of what i know SO far about dmca and takedowns and how to avoid them

                            AVATAR PICTURES, NAMES AND BIOS :

                            if ANYTHING about your avatar being a booth model is in the name of the avi or bio, they will take it down, this is most popular with shinano as ive seen the past year, but it can happen to other models

                            if a picture of your avi is in the profile, they will assume its their base (even if its a difff pic or not their base and dmca you

                            TEXTURES (not really dmca, but strict for takedown) :

                            from what i know, vrchat is able to download and look through your privs, I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT, but if your using a nsfw texture even tho ur avi is sfw, change it, they will take your stuff down

                            TAKE DOWNS ON NORMAL AVIS (not dmca) :

                            usually due to names, pictures or bios depicting nsfw or says nsfw, vrchat is soooo strict about this even in private avis

                            IN ALLL :

                            if you set up your booth models to be public and dont wanna be banned, dont make them public, these creators are like strawbunny type level crazy and will get your shit taken down and they have sued multiple people (and from what i know, won.) If you make them private and have any of the indicators listed, change it, make it less obvious, your way less likely to get flamed that way. If you make private avis aswell, DONT get in public lobbies with them, especially known public instances, there's so many avi creator goons jusst waiting to send proof and dmca you

                            models to look out for aas i knoww :

                            shinano
                            kumaly
                            milfy (usually bc of nsfw being big on milfy models, but yk i dont judge ig ;-;)
                            and
                            SOMETIMES manuka


                            I REALLLYY hope this info helps, sorry for bad grammer, and if you want to anything else or i got something wrong please reply and lmk !!

                            overall, use sfw textures, make sure your avi pics arent of in unity, no bios indicate it being edits or haveing credits and if you dont wanna risk the ban - dont make em pub

                            𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐜𝐤 𝐦𝐲 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐟𝐢𝐥𝐞/𝐝𝐦 𝐦𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐮𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐬 - 𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐥𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐛𝐮𝐢𝐥𝐝 𝐟𝐚𝐢𝐥𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐤𝐬 𝐝𝐨𝐰𝐧 !! <33

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                            • avatarofcornA
                              avatarofcornA
                              avatarofcorn
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              "Please submit the following information from your purchase history"
                              Right. And I'm a Nigerian prince. Give me your bank account. /s

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                              • TyeXOT
                                TyeXOT
                                TyeXO
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                Yeaah just had another one of my Milltinas taken down last week. Weeks before that I had my first milltina taken down as well. Ive reuploaded them both without tags, so far, no DMCA. Smells like a bot to me.

                                I collect shit and I share shit, lets all shit together :D

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                                • TyeXOT TyeXO

                                  Yeaah just had another one of my Milltinas taken down last week. Weeks before that I had my first milltina taken down as well. Ive reuploaded them both without tags, so far, no DMCA. Smells like a bot to me.

                                  puppiP
                                  puppiP
                                  puppi
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @TyeXO it might be a bot, but if anyone has proof it is you can 100% sue them for that if anyone has the balls LOL

                                  𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐜𝐤 𝐦𝐲 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐟𝐢𝐥𝐞/𝐝𝐦 𝐦𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐮𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐬 - 𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐥𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐛𝐮𝐢𝐥𝐝 𝐟𝐚𝐢𝐥𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐤𝐬 𝐝𝐨𝐰𝐧 !! <33

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                                  • puppiP puppi

                                    @TyeXO it might be a bot, but if anyone has proof it is you can 100% sue them for that if anyone has the balls LOL

                                    TyeXOT
                                    TyeXOT
                                    TyeXO
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #19

                                    @puppi Waste of time XD. This is so dumb in my opinion tho, someone needs to be humbled and taken off their pretend throne lmao

                                    I collect shit and I share shit, lets all shit together :D

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                                      mel1242
                                      wrote on last edited by mel1242
                                      #20

                                      DMCA reports for Japanese-style avatars are handled by AVATARDMCA, which uses scripts to compile lists and submit takedown requests.

                                      In my opinion, people in the Japanese community tend to be overly strict about rules and etiquette, which can be quite frustrating. They often say that avatars made by someone else should only be uploaded privately, and that avatars anime or games should not be used.

                                      When they find out that someone has broken the rules, they often start criticizing them or trying to push them out under the pretext of “Caution”

                                      Experienced players also tend to encourage beginners to purchase avatars on BOOTH.

                                      In Japan, users and creators tend to place strong importance on manners and community norms, and they often try to encourage people to legitimately purchase avatars, outfits, and other items on BOOTH. When they learn that assets are being shared illegally, they tend to form a common enemy and attempt to impose social sanctions.

                                      Because of that, sites that distribute assets like the ones here are extremely valuable to me, and the idea of going out of my way to purchase them feels completely ridiculous.

                                      Just like in Grand Theft Auto V, let’s steal the assets, throw them into a duffel bag, and share them with the people who want them.

                                      In particular, when playing VRC, you should be careful about entering worlds that have a large number of Japanese users.

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                                      • dolbaebD
                                        dolbaebD
                                        dolbaeb
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #21

                                        damn he just got my manuka i had up for years that i forgot about LOL

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                                        • SilvaMinotaurS
                                          SilvaMinotaurS
                                          SilvaMinotaur
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #22

                                          They tried with my Manuka as well recently. The fun part is that i have the commercial license and the avatar is private, so maybe if i file a report i can get his real name and yknow, sue the funny guy.

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