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    mewde
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    how do you get the gonso system to put it on an avi?

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    • Miss CannibalM Miss Cannibal referenced this topic on
    • taikeruT
      taikeruT
      taikeru
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      #8

      (not really short) guide on one of the methods i mentioned earlier in this topic can be found here

      // avid reverse engineer, long-time software developer

      // "...culture shouldn't exist only for those who can afford it."
      // - Hakita

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        starkitty
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        Small update, the system does log your IP (gonso can see it) and it locks the key to that IP/PC as well as your account

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        • taikeruT
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          taikeru
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          #10

          suppose that gives me an excuse to properly develop a bypass tool to abuse unity with, lol

          // avid reverse engineer, long-time software developer

          // "...culture shouldn't exist only for those who can afford it."
          // - Hakita

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            gernublado
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            I can assure you it does not

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            • taikeruT taikeru

              suppose that gives me an excuse to properly develop a bypass tool to abuse unity with, lol

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              PeachesClem
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              @taikeru lol yesssss

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              • devywevyD
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                devywevy
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                If i bought https://payhip.com/b/4M8Bv could someone decrypt it for me? i think my vrchat account possibly has been flagged in the gonso system, so if i buy it and upload it i think it will quit on me. i previously bought a avatar with gonso and it let me upload the pc version, but denied me from uploading the quest version. i think ill just waste my money if i upload it, and plus its nice to share with the community.

                🌸devy devy 🌸

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                • devywevyD devywevy

                  If i bought https://payhip.com/b/4M8Bv could someone decrypt it for me? i think my vrchat account possibly has been flagged in the gonso system, so if i buy it and upload it i think it will quit on me. i previously bought a avatar with gonso and it let me upload the pc version, but denied me from uploading the quest version. i think ill just waste my money if i upload it, and plus its nice to share with the community.

                  JadenCrossJ
                  JadenCrossJ
                  JadenCross
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                  @devywevy honestly came here bc was having issues with gonso from her avis but she doesnt have gonso, none of hers do it looks like shes lying

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                  • JadenCrossJ JadenCross

                    @devywevy honestly came here bc was having issues with gonso from her avis but she doesnt have gonso, none of hers do it looks like shes lying

                    cybergothhC
                    cybergothhC
                    cybergothh
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                    @JadenCross lying about having gonso on her avs is insane (if this is true) πŸ’€

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                    π™π™šπ™’π™šπ™’π™—π™šπ™§ 𝙩𝙀 π™—π™š π™ π™žπ™£π™™
                    Remember to upvote those who share!

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                    • JadenCrossJ JadenCross

                      @devywevy honestly came here bc was having issues with gonso from her avis but she doesnt have gonso, none of hers do it looks like shes lying

                      devywevyD
                      devywevyD
                      devywevy
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                      #16

                      @JadenCross hmm, do you have proof? not saying I think you're lying, but I don't wanna make a purchase I'm going to regret cuz I'm 100% flagged in the system 😿

                      🌸devy devy 🌸

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                      • cybergothhC cybergothh

                        @JadenCross lying about having gonso on her avs is insane (if this is true) πŸ’€

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                        JadenCross
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                        @cybergothh turns out her new couple set says she has gonso on it but she doesnt, some of the newer ones she has doesnt have gonso but some of the old ones do, its kinda mixed up with this creator, and people in my server were talking about only some have it some dont even if they say it does.

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                        • devywevyD devywevy

                          @JadenCross hmm, do you have proof? not saying I think you're lying, but I don't wanna make a purchase I'm going to regret cuz I'm 100% flagged in the system 😿

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                          JadenCrossJ
                          JadenCross
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                          @devywevy read what i said above^

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                          • JadenCrossJ JadenCross

                            @cybergothh turns out her new couple set says she has gonso on it but she doesnt, some of the newer ones she has doesnt have gonso but some of the old ones do, its kinda mixed up with this creator, and people in my server were talking about only some have it some dont even if they say it does.

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                            cybergothhC
                            cybergothh
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                            @JadenCross ohhh alright, maybe she just puts it there to scare off leakers? im not sure

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                            Remember to upvote those who share!

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                            • JadenCrossJ JadenCross

                              @devywevy read what i said above^

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                              devywevy
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                              @JadenCross so weird : / ty for the info!!

                              🌸devy devy 🌸

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                              • taikeruT taikeru

                                Could you tell me more about payhips system, and do sellers normally notify buyers before they purchase?

                                payhip's anti-leak is currently in closed-beta and requires a vouch directly from another creator that has it enabled to gain access - some creators do explicitly state that a package is protected by payhip's anti-leak, but i've seen that most do not

                                payhip's anti-leak works by injecting identifying bits into the unitypackage per buyer, generating a completely unique unitypackage for you as you click the download button

                                as far as i can tell, older versions of the anti-leak would edit files within the package like animations which would cause GonsoLicense to throw errors upon uploading; it seems now that isn't the case

                                i don't know very well how the anti-leak works right now. from my testing, it seems it no longer edits files within the package, and instead injects identifying hex-data into the unitypackage in specific places (of which seem to be very consistent across many payhip-signed packages); i'm working with Hal to develop a potential bypass for it, but we cannot make any promises

                                So basically itd be in my best interest to wait for decrypted avatars to be shared? (Im fine with that)

                                yes, this is unfortunately one of those situations where it's better to leave these processes up to those who know properly how to manage them; but understand that we also don't have infinite funds and the generosity of this community that donates their avatars and license keys cannot be understated

                                behind shady business practices are some very expensive "products" that likely aren't worth the price, and very commonly should not be "protected" by these things to begin with; the entire idea of giving a user encrypted, unmodifiable files of mostly kit-bashed assets is absurd in both conception and practice

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                                idkjustacat
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                                @taikeru So if it injects data into the unity package, does this mean anything within the unity package is also traceable to the purchaser, or are we safe if we individually take everything necessary for an outfit, avatar, etc out of the project and then put it all back together in a new one?

                                (she/her)

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                                • idkjustacatI idkjustacat

                                  @taikeru So if it injects data into the unity package, does this mean anything within the unity package is also traceable to the purchaser, or are we safe if we individually take everything necessary for an outfit, avatar, etc out of the project and then put it all back together in a new one?

                                  taikeruT
                                  taikeruT
                                  taikeru
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                                  #22

                                  @idkjustacat technically, you can mine specific assets; i just wouldn't put them back into the original unitypackage and instead build your own entirely

                                  i admit i've been absent on researching payhip's method for a bit, but it regardless of what methods you use they cannot inject data that will remain injected if you were to take an FBX from unity to blender, modify it, and re-export it; as for the unitypackage itself i wouldn't be so sure that bypasses as the data payhip injects seems to be in an unused, but still persistent block of the byte data

                                  there are ways to make a system that can persist tracking through this, but i highly doubt payhip is putting that much effort into theirs

                                  ultimately, don't really take my word as the bible for anything - i'm still trying to verifiably figure out how payhip's thing works but don't have a lot of testing packages to go off of

                                  // avid reverse engineer, long-time software developer

                                  // "...culture shouldn't exist only for those who can afford it."
                                  // - Hakita

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                                  • taikeruT taikeru

                                    @idkjustacat technically, you can mine specific assets; i just wouldn't put them back into the original unitypackage and instead build your own entirely

                                    i admit i've been absent on researching payhip's method for a bit, but it regardless of what methods you use they cannot inject data that will remain injected if you were to take an FBX from unity to blender, modify it, and re-export it; as for the unitypackage itself i wouldn't be so sure that bypasses as the data payhip injects seems to be in an unused, but still persistent block of the byte data

                                    there are ways to make a system that can persist tracking through this, but i highly doubt payhip is putting that much effort into theirs

                                    ultimately, don't really take my word as the bible for anything - i'm still trying to verifiably figure out how payhip's thing works but don't have a lot of testing packages to go off of

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                                    idkjustacat
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                                    @taikeru My thought was that I could re-export the FBXs through Blender, and take the animations, controllers, textures etc out of the original unityproject and build my own project using those controllers, animations, FBXs and re-create the materials using the original textures. But it sounds like it's possible they could still track through that? Crazy.

                                    (she/her)

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                                    • idkjustacatI idkjustacat

                                      @taikeru My thought was that I could re-export the FBXs through Blender, and take the animations, controllers, textures etc out of the original unityproject and build my own project using those controllers, animations, FBXs and re-create the materials using the original textures. But it sounds like it's possible they could still track through that? Crazy.

                                      taikeruT
                                      taikeruT
                                      taikeru
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                                      @idkjustacat as far as i can tell, it's possible but highly unlikely if you were to create a completely new project and rename anything important. your idea would probably work for the most part

                                      not sure though, try it if you're interested; i'm always open to taking a look at unitypackages that are signed by payhip in efforts to discover what specifically they're doing

                                      // avid reverse engineer, long-time software developer

                                      // "...culture shouldn't exist only for those who can afford it."
                                      // - Hakita

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                                        Linze
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                                        Gonso System = Spyware
                                        Lmao

                                        Free sharing is a costly charity.
                                        Once sharing becomes others' resale, that's a monopoly.

                                        I respect every creator and any takedown request. Please contact me using the forum function first before you decide to do anything that exposes me on social media. Thank you.

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                                          Sylvian
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                                          I have an avatar I need gonso encryption removed from (Akai by Strawbunny) because trying to upload it legitimately is driving me up the damn wall. Would someone be able to assist me?

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