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@Kleiner how optimized is she? if the creator had so much trouble with toggles and other issues im afraid they also failed on the opt part t-t
@Skydoms By default, there's only 1 prefab, which contains all the clothing options. Vram, material counts are thru the roof. Using d4rk optimizer and removing clothing pieces you can knock down the numbers quite a bit.
There aren't any VFX like godfall avatars so I'm not experiencing strong fps drops after optimizing the avi a bit. Just as any avi you get, needs some work before it's usable without complaints from others.
But overall, from TDA avatars I used, it's not terrible. I would recommend on waiting for the creator to update the avi with proper toggles NOT made with Vixen.
FX layer is a mess, menus are an unnamed file mess, parameters are an unnamed file mess. Oh and parameters are overflowing too.
But overall, I think it's possible to knock down the rating to medium, just by removing all but 1 set of clothing and clearing out a bunch of toggles. Oh and knocking down barely-textured textures to 1024 or even 512 resolution.I'm also suffering from an issue where the eye whites are invisible ingame and I have no idea what could've caused that.So some face textures seem to be missing the eye whites, hence the issue of them being invisible.|
After a bit of work of fixing some issues, optimizing a bit but not entirely (got multiple pieces of clothing, not all though), here's the result
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@SuGa2 I always optimize my nsfw avis to this level. SFW is usually medium or better, though. Tomorrow I'll try making a SFW version, so I can share results.
On average, download size for my SFW versions are under 10 mb. Around 8mb if I can manage.
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they def couldve merged some mats into one mesh for some of the clothes i personally think to have optimized better
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@SuGa2 There are toggles for changing colors of everything, which are material changes. Remove those toggles and mat count will cut in half, at the very least.
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It is possible to get it down to medium, while keeping the overall look. Lots of features killed off though.
If I kill off the physbones, I can even get it good rated. Though I don't care much for it. -
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@Skydoms By default, there's only 1 prefab, which contains all the clothing options. Vram, material counts are thru the roof. Using d4rk optimizer and removing clothing pieces you can knock down the numbers quite a bit.
There aren't any VFX like godfall avatars so I'm not experiencing strong fps drops after optimizing the avi a bit. Just as any avi you get, needs some work before it's usable without complaints from others.
But overall, from TDA avatars I used, it's not terrible. I would recommend on waiting for the creator to update the avi with proper toggles NOT made with Vixen.
FX layer is a mess, menus are an unnamed file mess, parameters are an unnamed file mess. Oh and parameters are overflowing too.
But overall, I think it's possible to knock down the rating to medium, just by removing all but 1 set of clothing and clearing out a bunch of toggles. Oh and knocking down barely-textured textures to 1024 or even 512 resolution.I'm also suffering from an issue where the eye whites are invisible ingame and I have no idea what could've caused that.So some face textures seem to be missing the eye whites, hence the issue of them being invisible.|
After a bit of work of fixing some issues, optimizing a bit but not entirely (got multiple pieces of clothing, not all though), here's the result
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@Kleiner thank you sm for the answer! Good lawd tho,it really is mad heavy,such a shame for such a cute avi t-t The creator prolly wont update it for a good while,they'll have to redo everything basically and thats a lot of work
@Skydoms With a bit of willpower and work, it's quite usable. As you can see from the stats I posted.
Tools I use:- Modular Avatar Mesh Cutter. (Mask/Bone/Vertex mesh hider-deletion. Deletes the mesh, reducing poly count even more, if the mesh is always active. I suggest Mask-based. For example: Deleting a mesh under clothing for SFW avis.)
- Meshia's Mesh Simplification. (Realtime, non-destructive poly decimation per-mesh)
- VRCFury for remaking toggles.
- D4rk Optimizer. (Combines meshes, materials, etc., wherever possible, cleans up layers, blendshapes, physbones, bones, as best as possible.)
All of these are non-destructive, and get applied upon upload/playtest. Although, VRCFury doesn't help with optimization regarding the way it makes toggles and fx layer.
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This avatar is shockingly hard to make Quest compatible. Then again, maybe I’m just a dunce.
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Is the avatar still usable without any editing or does it cause too much fps issues?
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Is the avatar still usable without any editing or does it cause too much fps issues?
I usually don't optimize my avatars too much@YumikoTheCutie I'd recommend using a Texture Optimizer to reduce the resolution of textures to at least 1024, no need to crunch compress.
And d4rk optimizer which is a script that gets added to your avatar descriptor. That should knock down most of the performance issues that might pop up. This is the bare minimum I add to my avatars. It's non-destructive and doesn't take long at all.
I heavily recommend adding d4rk optimizer to every single avatar you use.
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Here are some example prefabs for those who need/curious about it. These are rather barebones without many options from the original avatar.
I don't have much motivation to do more work on it at the moment.
The 3 objects with scripts inside of the prefabs are somewhat transferable between avatars with minor adjustments needed to them.
D4rk's Optimizer on Avatar Descriptor
Mesh Cutter
Mask Texture Editor
Meshia's Mesh Simplification
VRCF Toggles
If you switch out the hair, it is possible to get it down to good rating. Physbone transforms are always the limiting factor on this avi.
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Here are some example prefabs for those who need/curious about it. These are rather barebones without many options from the original avatar.
I don't have much motivation to do more work on it at the moment.
The 3 objects with scripts inside of the prefabs are somewhat transferable between avatars with minor adjustments needed to them.
D4rk's Optimizer on Avatar Descriptor
Mesh Cutter
Mask Texture Editor
Meshia's Mesh Simplification
VRCF Toggles
If you switch out the hair, it is possible to get it down to good rating. Physbone transforms are always the limiting factor on this avi.
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@Kleiner are you going to release your optimized version?
@halfthejug If I ever get to fixing the toggles. What you see above is what I currently have for SFW versions. NSFW can be adapted by simply using my provided examples and following my recommendations above.
Although, NSFW requires all the original FX layers and original expression menus.
I haven't optimised the nsfw in a true sense yet, because my nsfw version still has the original messy stuff, just more optimised regarding meshes and materials. FX layer also provides quite an impact on performance of the avatar, just not counted towards the rating on VRChat because from VRChat point of view, layers are a completely locked down black box.I do not understand much about Vixen yet, because the tool that was leaked here completely errors out in my projects and nearly breaks them. Also the way Vixen makes toggles is like 9x worse for performance.
I showed some screenshots to an expert when it comes to unity, and they nearly had a headache seeing how bad it is.
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