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    Rae
    wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 08:29 last edited by
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    Idk if it's just a me thing, but I feel like there's too many bumps sometimes. For instance, I last checked the forum less than 12 hours ago and had zero unread topics. I come back after waking up, and it's gone beyond the 200 cap already. I feel like in an attempt to make sure people have their threads seen,they're actually bumping too many threads and as a result, reducing the likelihood that the threads they really want seen will be seen by someone who can help.

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      CodeAngel
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      wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 10:11 last edited by
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      I've noticed that too, we'll soon be taking action if this continues

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        23 Jan 2024, 10:11

        I've noticed that too, we'll soon be taking action if this continues

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        Ashton Peaches
        wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 10:18 last edited by
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        @CodeAngel What, NOW its a problem?? Lol Wasn't it a problem like, half a year ago or more?

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          23 Jan 2024, 10:18

          @CodeAngel What, NOW its a problem?? Lol Wasn't it a problem like, half a year ago or more?

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          CodeAngel
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          wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 10:34 last edited by
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          @Ashton-Peaches too much bumping has always been an issue

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            23 Jan 2024, 10:34

            @Ashton-Peaches too much bumping has always been an issue

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            Ashton Peaches
            wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 10:51 last edited by Ashton Peaches
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            @CodeAngel Yeah, but like, didn't you and the other admin or whatever person rake several users over the coals for suggesting it was a problem?? I've been here for like 6 months and have seen several get downvoted off the platform for suggesting something needed done.

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              23 Jan 2024, 10:51

              @CodeAngel Yeah, but like, didn't you and the other admin or whatever person rake several users over the coals for suggesting it was a problem?? I've been here for like 6 months and have seen several get downvoted off the platform for suggesting something needed done.

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              CodeAngel
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              wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 10:54 last edited by
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              @Ashton-Peaches i don't remember that, but we've been discussing ways to get an alternative to bumping like it works right now.

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                23 Jan 2024, 10:11

                I've noticed that too, we'll soon be taking action if this continues

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                Rae
                wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 11:23 last edited by
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                @CodeAngel Awesome! I was basically feeling like "Am I so out of touch?" kinda feeling lmao

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                  username11111
                  wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 17:57 last edited by
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                  How should we be bumping?

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                    23 Jan 2024, 10:51

                    @CodeAngel Yeah, but like, didn't you and the other admin or whatever person rake several users over the coals for suggesting it was a problem?? I've been here for like 6 months and have seen several get downvoted off the platform for suggesting something needed done.

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                    SpookyVersace
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                    wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 20:49 last edited by
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                    @Ashton-Peaches
                    I believe you may not be fully aware of the entire situation. I treated everyone equally in that scenario, informing them that there were no rules regarding the frequency of bumps or +1s. The issue arose when certain individuals began systematically downvoting anyone who engaged in bumping or +1ing. Although only CodeAngel and I can see who downvotes, it became evident that the same few individuals were consistently involved. Additionally, some individuals took it upon themselves to act as unofficial moderators, instructing others to refrain from bumping as if it were a rule, even though it wasn't. I communicated with each of the individuals involved and went as far as resetting the reputation of one of them to resolve the conflict. Therefore, I did not subject multiple users to severe criticism or reprimand in that particular situation.

                    The entire situation led to additional issues with those individuals, and these problems were unrelated to the initial matter of bumping.

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                      23 Jan 2024, 17:57

                      How should we be bumping?

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                      Rae
                      wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 20:55 last edited by
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                      @melissadick Don't get me wrong, I don't have a direct issue with you wanting to have things you're looking for moved up. That's beyond valid. It's just that there's so many people bumping so many different things that it's kinda hard to actually sift through everything. How I personally do it is I have like a priority list of things that I'm looking for the most, and I only bump the stuff near the top of that list now and again, but that's just how I do it. I don't think I'm doing it the "right" way or anything, that's just the way that makes the most sense to me and what I feel like has the highest chance of someone noticing the things I actually want to be noticed.

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                        23 Jan 2024, 17:57

                        How should we be bumping?

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                        Rae
                        wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 20:58 last edited by
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                        @melissadick Also of note: There currently isn't an objective wrong way to go about it since there are no rules saying you should do it a certain way. Do whatever you're most comfortable with. Don't let me tell you what is and isn't right. I'm not an admin or moderator or something like that. I just thought this was a conversation worth bringing up.

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                          23 Jan 2024, 20:58

                          @melissadick Also of note: There currently isn't an objective wrong way to go about it since there are no rules saying you should do it a certain way. Do whatever you're most comfortable with. Don't let me tell you what is and isn't right. I'm not an admin or moderator or something like that. I just thought this was a conversation worth bringing up.

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                          Grunt
                          wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 21:53 last edited by
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                          @Rae watching the topic helps for me. There is the unspoken rule about the 12-24 rule but there so many new people around here it became overwhelming.

                          "In flames of my anger you shall be cleansed

                          impurities and sin taken by the flames of scorn.

                          From the ashes, you will be pure as the soil."

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                            Rae
                            wrote on 23 Jan 2024, 23:06 last edited by
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                            @eiron Listen here you little-

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                              SpookyVersace
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                              wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 00:02 last edited by
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                              We will think of something. Will keep everyone updated ❀

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                                wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 07:33 last edited by
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                                I just assumed if there's no explicit rule, it'd be the same as most forum rules.. which is to not bump more than once per thread in 24 hours. I also personally saw +1 as different from bumping, as +1 shows the amount of users interested (think of an interest check) but not everyone adheres to that ofc! Just be patient with the admins guys, please. πŸ™‚

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                                  23 Jan 2024, 20:49

                                  @Ashton-Peaches
                                  I believe you may not be fully aware of the entire situation. I treated everyone equally in that scenario, informing them that there were no rules regarding the frequency of bumps or +1s. The issue arose when certain individuals began systematically downvoting anyone who engaged in bumping or +1ing. Although only CodeAngel and I can see who downvotes, it became evident that the same few individuals were consistently involved. Additionally, some individuals took it upon themselves to act as unofficial moderators, instructing others to refrain from bumping as if it were a rule, even though it wasn't. I communicated with each of the individuals involved and went as far as resetting the reputation of one of them to resolve the conflict. Therefore, I did not subject multiple users to severe criticism or reprimand in that particular situation.

                                  The entire situation led to additional issues with those individuals, and these problems were unrelated to the initial matter of bumping.

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                                  Ashton Peaches
                                  wrote on 25 Jan 2024, 12:04 last edited by
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                                  @SpookyVersace Interesting. From what you describe, it seems like that "unofficial moderating" may have been to stop what has now gotten your attention as a problem. Perhaps it has been needed for some time to be an actual rule.

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                                    25 Jan 2024, 12:04

                                    @SpookyVersace Interesting. From what you describe, it seems like that "unofficial moderating" may have been to stop what has now gotten your attention as a problem. Perhaps it has been needed for some time to be an actual rule.

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                                    wrote on 25 Jan 2024, 22:47 last edited by
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                                    @Ashton-Peaches This has never grabbed my attention as a "problem." I neither perceive it as a problem nor dismiss it outright. My usage of the forums differs from everyone here. I log onto VRChat perhaps once a month to watch a movie. If only three people identify something as a problem among the entire forum user base, it doesn't necessarily classify as a widespread issue. When this matter arose a few months ago, I received more feedback stating that it wasn't a problem, and people didn't mind the bumping. I'm indifferent to any changes made to it or rules added. However, as evident from this post's lack of engagement, it's apparent that the community doesn't harbor significant concerns about it. We could make an announcement to get everyone's thoughts on this and maybe set up a poll to see where people stand. After that, we can decide on the next steps.

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                                      25 Jan 2024, 22:47

                                      @Ashton-Peaches This has never grabbed my attention as a "problem." I neither perceive it as a problem nor dismiss it outright. My usage of the forums differs from everyone here. I log onto VRChat perhaps once a month to watch a movie. If only three people identify something as a problem among the entire forum user base, it doesn't necessarily classify as a widespread issue. When this matter arose a few months ago, I received more feedback stating that it wasn't a problem, and people didn't mind the bumping. I'm indifferent to any changes made to it or rules added. However, as evident from this post's lack of engagement, it's apparent that the community doesn't harbor significant concerns about it. We could make an announcement to get everyone's thoughts on this and maybe set up a poll to see where people stand. After that, we can decide on the next steps.

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                                      Ashton Peaches
                                      wrote on 26 Jan 2024, 04:35 last edited by
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                                      @SpookyVersace But apparently the owner has seen it as a problem? I'm confused. So you say its not a problem, but the owner admits as much. I am obviously missing something here Please feel free to explain further.

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                                        26 Jan 2024, 04:35

                                        @SpookyVersace But apparently the owner has seen it as a problem? I'm confused. So you say its not a problem, but the owner admits as much. I am obviously missing something here Please feel free to explain further.

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                                        wrote on 26 Jan 2024, 11:00 last edited by
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                                        @Ashton-Peaches Me and CodeAngel are not the same person? Don't understand how something so simple is hard to understand.

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                                          Grunt
                                          wrote on 26 Jan 2024, 11:34 last edited by
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                                          I mean it was not as bad at first when the numbers were small. then the huge influx of people came it and it difficult. I mean if watching threads or following people don't help, then i am at a loss.

                                          "In flames of my anger you shall be cleansed

                                          impurities and sin taken by the flames of scorn.

                                          From the ashes, you will be pure as the soil."

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