Hey Strawbunny and her gooner gonso gang
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@scenerae Hey. Take a breath. Stay with me for a moment. Just a few minutes of yer time is all I'm asking.
@error404notfound idk if i want to
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@error404notfound ill just give them what they want.
@scenerae I been there. I been where you're at. It sucks. It hurts. Nothing feels right or okay and everything feels wrong.
I know what you're going through. Maybe not exactly but I do get the feeling.
Gonso and Straw are just two people making life miserable. They don't matter and they shouldn't matter.
We're not a substitute for mental health, but we are a community and we're here for each other. You're part of that.
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@gnarpyy thank you, gnarpyy. I don't know what else to do.
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@scenerae we'll be here when you come back.
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@scenerae just take it easy! don't worry too much about it, relax offline for a while and try not to think too much on this whole thing
I know its easier said than done, but things with Straw and Gonso will either blow over or you'll get proven correct. My dms are open if you wanna let out any frustrations! 
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@scenerae just take it easy! don't worry too much about it, relax offline for a while and try not to think too much on this whole thing
I know its easier said than done, but things with Straw and Gonso will either blow over or you'll get proven correct. My dms are open if you wanna let out any frustrations! @MoonCrawler @scenerae listen to Moon. My dms are open as well, I think. If not I have discord.
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Please, PLEASE dont use this to actively break down and whatnot, I understand you're going through a hard time man, but its not a good idea to publicly show that. Due to the insane and deranged people online.
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@MeowMixer I'm sorry I'm a random lurker, I was reading through the convo out of curiosity when I saw this and I had to reply as someone who has run an online shop before. You can't track people's IP's just because they bought something off your site. That is like if an offline IRL store decided to keep your credit card info after you bought something from there once: it's illegal. There's no way that person can just track an IP because someone browsed or bought something off the site. The only information that person would see is your username/whatever name you give when you make the purchase, and the email you purchased with. They don't see ur IP, ur card info, ur banking, or anything...
No hate to anyone, I just wanted to point this out
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@MeowMixer I'm sorry I'm a random lurker, I was reading through the convo out of curiosity when I saw this and I had to reply as someone who has run an online shop before. You can't track people's IP's just because they bought something off your site. That is like if an offline IRL store decided to keep your credit card info after you bought something from there once: it's illegal. There's no way that person can just track an IP because someone browsed or bought something off the site. The only information that person would see is your username/whatever name you give when you make the purchase, and the email you purchased with. They don't see ur IP, ur card info, ur banking, or anything...
No hate to anyone, I just wanted to point this out
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@MeowMixer I'm sorry I'm a random lurker, I was reading through the convo out of curiosity when I saw this and I had to reply as someone who has run an online shop before. You can't track people's IP's just because they bought something off your site. That is like if an offline IRL store decided to keep your credit card info after you bought something from there once: it's illegal. There's no way that person can just track an IP because someone browsed or bought something off the site. The only information that person would see is your username/whatever name you give when you make the purchase, and the email you purchased with. They don't see ur IP, ur card info, ur banking, or anything...
No hate to anyone, I just wanted to point this out
@mikumiku To also add to this, if you purchase from payhip creators could have the following information from you. I don't think this applies if you use a VPN, but if you use paypal it might bypass the VPN anyways.
- SALES TAX (Country/State)
- PayPal - Legal First Name & Last Name (Doesn't apply if you have a business paypal)
- Shipping Address (Can be viewed on paypal transactions if you dont have this disabled/hidden)
- Your Email & Paypal Email (Many people have their IRL name in those)
If you want to stay hidden always use fake emails with fake names, if you use paypal create a business account to hide your personal name. Disable your shipping address, so it won't be shared unless you manually give it to them.
Payhip did show peoples IP at one point, but I believe they removed that option. It was not around for very long. Also IP doesn't = your address, so even if a creator got your IP the most they can do is IP ban you.
Also if you use any BOTS such as a verification bot that links your vrchat account to your discord to gain access to a server, those commonly also log IPs just like double counter. Again always use a VPN, and fake accounts.
Gonso having his script outreach into your browser is a clear breach of privacy, and I don't agree with it at all, and yah in some places its very illegal. This is why I will never be caught by gonso because I have NEVER used, downloaded, or uploaded any model that uses gonso. If anyone wants to degonso I also suggest using a virtual emulator (For a PC) so there isnt any saved data or cache for the script to take from.
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@mikumiku To also add to this, if you purchase from payhip creators could have the following information from you. I don't think this applies if you use a VPN, but if you use paypal it might bypass the VPN anyways.
- SALES TAX (Country/State)
- PayPal - Legal First Name & Last Name (Doesn't apply if you have a business paypal)
- Shipping Address (Can be viewed on paypal transactions if you dont have this disabled/hidden)
- Your Email & Paypal Email (Many people have their IRL name in those)
If you want to stay hidden always use fake emails with fake names, if you use paypal create a business account to hide your personal name. Disable your shipping address, so it won't be shared unless you manually give it to them.
Payhip did show peoples IP at one point, but I believe they removed that option. It was not around for very long. Also IP doesn't = your address, so even if a creator got your IP the most they can do is IP ban you.
Also if you use any BOTS such as a verification bot that links your vrchat account to your discord to gain access to a server, those commonly also log IPs just like double counter. Again always use a VPN, and fake accounts.
Gonso having his script outreach into your browser is a clear breach of privacy, and I don't agree with it at all, and yah in some places its very illegal. This is why I will never be caught by gonso because I have NEVER used, downloaded, or uploaded any model that uses gonso. If anyone wants to degonso I also suggest using a virtual emulator (For a PC) so there isnt any saved data or cache for the script to take from.
@Hanka Very interesting, thank you for explaining to me ^^! I purchased Shiori because I fell in love with the model after finding it on here a couple months ago (it was my first time ever buying a vrc model, and it looks a LOT like a sona I use) but my memory is shit when it comes to the Gonso system that i didn't really recognize it at first until I really thought about it. I use privacy badger, ublock, a password manager, and two vpns on top of each other because i have beef with google, but I can see why people would be bothered even if they use protection
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@Hanka Very interesting, thank you for explaining to me ^^! I purchased Shiori because I fell in love with the model after finding it on here a couple months ago (it was my first time ever buying a vrc model, and it looks a LOT like a sona I use) but my memory is shit when it comes to the Gonso system that i didn't really recognize it at first until I really thought about it. I use privacy badger, ublock, a password manager, and two vpns on top of each other because i have beef with google, but I can see why people would be bothered even if they use protection
@mikumiku Right! I never really thought much of the gonso system back then, but I still never touched it soley due to the fact they could remove my access to uploading the model at any time. Which I'm glad I did not because of everything thats come out now. I've never heard of privacy badger so Ill need to look into that
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i just readed everything and holy shit is bro good?
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i just readed everything and holy shit is bro good?
@lovedlacedoll No, they're going through a psychotic break
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@lovedlacedoll No, they're going through a psychotic break
@astronomical they also just got banned as well.
While I genuinely hope they get the care they need, I have a feeling banning them may make them spiral more.
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@astronomical they also just got banned as well.
While I genuinely hope they get the care they need, I have a feeling banning them may make them spiral more.
@error404notfound well they made a case with this vrc tiktoker name ohedie who exposes people doing devious stuff and what not which is friday if they still do it
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@gnarpyy that is true, you have a point. Gonso could be lying about talking to a firm though, we never know. We were also shown no proof of the claims, and the person making the claims to Rae did not give evidence. The burden of proof falls on the claimant.
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@error404notfound well they made a case with this vrc tiktoker name ohedie who exposes people doing devious stuff and what not which is friday if they still do it
@toastytoasty speaking of, how did yours go
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