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VRChat added VRCA (?maybe VRCW too) protection

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    slaugh
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    #41

    It sounds very sad

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    • Dr.beepD Dr.beep

      @Real-Visitor
      I have been looking into this for a few days now, was hoping someone would have a solution available, the only reason I even play VRC anymore past the EAC update was because it gave me access to an unfathomable amount of 3d assets to do as I pleased with. when I get the time I'm going to try a few methods to circumvent the encryption or maybe an alternative method for ripping from the game. Off the top of my head the best ideas I have at the moment are as follows
      1:try to analyze where the models are coming from and intercept the download (ie using a network analysis tool like Wireshark)
      2:maybe something simple like closing the game before the cache can encrypt (sounds ridiculous, but this IS VRchat devs we are talking about, don't rule this out)
      3:Use a traditional model ripping tool such as ninja ripper or maybe even renderdoc, this method isn't ideal, because it'll be the raw output of the GPU and not a rigged character with blendshapes ect(something like this is difficult to almost impossible to patch because your GPU has to render the graphic at some point, however it is far from perfect and requires rigging as well as A TON of other work)
      4:and this one is unfortunate, but we may actually have to look into bypassing the anti cheat and become client users ourselves, it's been 2 years so I'm not certain the method works anymore but I was able to get melon loader to work on Linux AFTER the easy anti cheat patch.
      And finally 5: I heard multiple people mention that the game is using AES encryption, so our best course of action using this method would be to search the games files for a decryption key or maybe analyze the games network traffic and see if a key is sent to the game to decrypt the assets, once (or if) we get the key we should be able to decrypt the desired file.

      Something I will say off the bat right now is ripping is no longer going to be as open and simple as it once was, and the community built around it is going to take a serious hit in numbers, those that do remain are likely going to charge for their service,(more than they already do) if a method is discovered it's likely going to be gatekept for monetary gain and the only "methods" that slip through the cracks will be literal viruses and scams, and if a method does get big enough VRchat will likely step in a patch it, as it is definitely apparent they are putting an actual effort to stop rippers for once. I actually worry that the devs of the game will see forums like this and formulate ways to make our lives even harder but only time will tell.
      This is where ripper boys will either become ripper men, or just give up entirely.

      Sorry for the blog post will update if anything works.

      ReymR
      ReymR
      Reym
      wrote on last edited by
      #42

      @Beeboo we gonna decompile the game with this one, some way that i think may or may not work is intercept, decompiling whole game for key which might possible, or goes straight on how the algorithm works

      I'm bad at understanding english word

      I fix .vrca/.vrcw stuff for free and for fun! Depending on file, every outcome and vary might be different than the original avatar has due to the toggles and much more, send me a pm if you need an avi that need to fix or cracking a password locked avatar or send me .vrca file or through my pms and i will extract/fix them for you!

      request is semi-open, only on unencrypted __data file aka .vrca or .vrcw

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        fredbla
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        #43

        @Beeboo

        1:try to analyze where the models are coming from and intercept the download (ie using a network analysis tool like Wireshark)

        It should be inside the AvatarApi object, which represents the api response, there is assetUrl field that should point to a s3 url. I ignore if there are security on aws side, or if the files themselves are encrypted.

        I was able to get melon loader to work on Linux AFTER the easy anti cheat patch.

        Were you able to play online? join instances etc

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        • F fredbla

          @Beeboo

          1:try to analyze where the models are coming from and intercept the download (ie using a network analysis tool like Wireshark)

          It should be inside the AvatarApi object, which represents the api response, there is assetUrl field that should point to a s3 url. I ignore if there are security on aws side, or if the files themselves are encrypted.

          I was able to get melon loader to work on Linux AFTER the easy anti cheat patch.

          Were you able to play online? join instances etc

          Dr.beepD
          Dr.beepD
          Dr.beep
          wrote on last edited by Dr.beep
          #44

          @fredbla I was, wasn't too difficult to pull off either.

          Currently investigating ways to bypass VRC's new encryption on VRCA's and VRCW's. Msg me if you have any leads

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          • ReymR
            ReymR
            Reym
            wrote on last edited by
            #45

            @Beeboo so you found potential bypass to get data again?

            I'm bad at understanding english word

            I fix .vrca/.vrcw stuff for free and for fun! Depending on file, every outcome and vary might be different than the original avatar has due to the toggles and much more, send me a pm if you need an avi that need to fix or cracking a password locked avatar or send me .vrca file or through my pms and i will extract/fix them for you!

            request is semi-open, only on unencrypted __data file aka .vrca or .vrcw

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            • ReymR Reym

              @Beeboo so you found potential bypass to get data again?

              Dr.beepD
              Dr.beepD
              Dr.beep
              wrote on last edited by Dr.beep
              #46

              @Reym I know of an anti cheat bypass, but I currently can't rip models, using Linux still works as an anti cheat bypass however the game randomly kicks you after a few minutes due to some type of checksum the cheat software runs. We may need to look into buying a Direct memory access board (DMA) Cheaters use them in games like fortnite and while I myself have no desire to cheat in a game played for fun, for the purpose of ripping I might invest in it

              Currently investigating ways to bypass VRC's new encryption on VRCA's and VRCW's. Msg me if you have any leads

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              • ReymR
                ReymR
                Reym
                wrote on last edited by
                #47

                @Dr.beep so only anti cheat bypass for now i see, DMA is expensive, be careful on investing stuff as who knows we might find lead on something

                I'm bad at understanding english word

                I fix .vrca/.vrcw stuff for free and for fun! Depending on file, every outcome and vary might be different than the original avatar has due to the toggles and much more, send me a pm if you need an avi that need to fix or cracking a password locked avatar or send me .vrca file or through my pms and i will extract/fix them for you!

                request is semi-open, only on unencrypted __data file aka .vrca or .vrcw

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                  esau_winchester
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                  #48

                  Hey, why don't we go back to what the first rippers did?

                  i.e. use second life to make an avatar there and rip it and port it to unity and then to vrchat ?

                  i really feel that we have to go back to that
                  or look for a new method to bypass the aes encryption.

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                  • dobypD
                    dobypD
                    dobyp
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                    #49

                    this is all that its know atm:

                    some people got around it
                    you have to modify the client
                    the file responsible for the encryption might be "vrc_fast_crypto.dll" in the plugins folder.
                    dm me for further info

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                    • dobypD dobyp

                      this is all that its know atm:

                      some people got around it
                      you have to modify the client
                      the file responsible for the encryption might be "vrc_fast_crypto.dll" in the plugins folder.
                      dm me for further info

                      LinzeL
                      LinzeL
                      Linze
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                        DeepDishBussy
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                        #51

                        Someone in the ARC discord said this "the fast_crypto.dll does nothing but work for udon and p2p encryption" I suspect this isn't related or the file at least is not responsible for the encryption.

                        DM me if any of my links go down or if a file is outdated

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                        • ReymR
                          ReymR
                          Reym
                          wrote on last edited by Reym
                          #52

                          @LeonKennedy that is such a interesting info

                          there is new file whenever you open the cache-windows, called vrc-version, i not sure what it is, back then it was not a thing, maybe they are used for decryption? Like sort of authetication

                          New or old file appear in plugin folder called mediapipe_c and lib_burst_generated, how do i check dll?

                          I'm bad at understanding english word

                          I fix .vrca/.vrcw stuff for free and for fun! Depending on file, every outcome and vary might be different than the original avatar has due to the toggles and much more, send me a pm if you need an avi that need to fix or cracking a password locked avatar or send me .vrca file or through my pms and i will extract/fix them for you!

                          request is semi-open, only on unencrypted __data file aka .vrca or .vrcw

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                          • dobypD
                            dobypD
                            dobyp
                            wrote on last edited by dobyp
                            #53

                            i've reversed the dll myself, and it's in fact not related to the avatar encryption, but it's known that everything happens on memory.

                            If you know about reverse engineering we could create a discord group to help each other, if you are interested dm me.

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                            • avatarofcornA
                              avatarofcornA
                              avatarofcorn
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                              #54

                              Touching the client is resource intensive. I believe that going around it by bumping TLS or getting bundles from the CDN is our best bet yet.

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                              • SillyBunnyS
                                SillyBunnyS
                                SillyBunny
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                                #55

                                there is multiple people who have a working method i dont know it myself but i would like the eac bypass because i could probably make a melon loader mod to do it

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                                  chocolate
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                                  #56

                                  Why not try asking the developers who make HEX?

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                                  • Dr.beepD
                                    Dr.beepD
                                    Dr.beep
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #57

                                    Has anyone found any leads yet?

                                    Currently investigating ways to bypass VRC's new encryption on VRCA's and VRCW's. Msg me if you have any leads

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                                    • CryoVRC
                                      CryoVRC
                                      CryoVR
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                                      #58

                                      I may be wrong (I don't think so though) but I just ripped an avatar just fine I know that with the newest sdk 3.8 or something they have detections for ripped avis so if you import an avatar it's got to be renamed and all folders need to be moved and renamed to trick it into thinking it's normal. It really pissed me off but it doesn't seem to be impossible, took me a bit but def. doable.
                                      I wasn't able to rip with UTiny like the old days but I have an old bit of software that for my continued use will not be naming but FYI I believe you can.

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                                        DeepDishBussy
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                                        #59

                                        Can I ask where you heard about the ripping detections for sdk 3.8? If this is true, that is very frustrating

                                        DM me if any of my links go down or if a file is outdated

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                                        • BabyBlueBunnyB
                                          BabyBlueBunnyB
                                          BabyBlueBunny
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                                          #60

                                          I don't know much about the ripping detection, but recently I ran into a public avatar that in their radial wheel they had a toggle which stated "I know when you rip this avatar" and in the description it outed 2-3 people that have before. But that's as far as I've heard about it

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