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VRChat added VRCA (?maybe VRCW too) protection

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  • avatarofcornA avatarofcorn

    It's added for VRCW as well. I heard about it and went on the mad scramble to back up memorable worlds from the early days and they're all scrambled. I have a feeling they only did this so people can't "port" user-made worlds to other social VR platforms since VRChat has gone down the shitter. They don't care one bit about their users and their concerns with "avatar ripping".

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    Hardware98
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    @avatarofcorn I heard personally they did it because they've started a partnership with Booth, but unsure how true that really is. At least the community had time, but I fear vrchat is certainly gonna turn into Pokechat for vrca's.

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      @trejectt Yep, saw one video where client user was able to extract avtr file w/o encryption. And from other source I found out that it is indeed client-sided. Files on VRC servers are still un-encrypted, and encrypted locally. So if anyone have a backup of previous VRC client version, they can still load and rip. Or wait for someone to decompile VRC and make another tool...

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      trejectt
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      @Real-Visitor I havent found a version that lets you play. i have all the way back to last year. all force to update

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        chocolate
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        I downgraded VRChat, but I can’t launch it because a warning message says, "Please update."

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          I downgraded VRChat, but I can’t launch it because a warning message says, "Please update."

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          NonckUnck
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          @chocolate yeah it only worked for a few hrs into the next day.(28th) i helped someone figured it out

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            @trejectt Yep, saw one video where client user was able to extract avtr file w/o encryption. And from other source I found out that it is indeed client-sided. Files on VRC servers are still un-encrypted, and encrypted locally. So if anyone have a backup of previous VRC client version, they can still load and rip. Or wait for someone to decompile VRC and make another tool...

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            Reym
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            @Real-Visitor what if the connection download is intercepted? what would happen?

            I'm bad at understanding english word

            I fix .vrca stuff for free and for fun! Depending on file, every outcome and vary might be different than the original avatar has due to the toggles and much more, send me a pm if you need an avi that i can ripp (public avatar only, private still risky, unless you have the cache of those avatar you can send them over for request for fix) and fix for you or cracking a password locked avatar or send me .vrca file or vrchat avatar link through my pms!

            VRCHAT HAS ADDED SORT OF PROTECTION ON __DATA (aka .vrca or .vrcw) FILE, EVERY FUTURE REQUEST IS CLOSED UNTIL ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM FOR EXTRACTING FILE OUT IS MADE

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              DrKWolf
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              Can someone help me on DM for getting an avatar? i still have the ID of it.
              extracting vrca from cache doesn't work anymore, and assetripper can't load assets folder and shows unity version as 0.0.0a0

              Looking for someone who can bypass avatar encryption. I just need to get a single avatar. Still have the ID of it.

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              • Hardware98H Hardware98

                @avatarofcorn I heard personally they did it because they've started a partnership with Booth, but unsure how true that really is. At least the community had time, but I fear vrchat is certainly gonna turn into Pokechat for vrca's.

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                avatarofcorn
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                #19

                @Hardware98 It was clear as day what the outcome would have been when EAC was rammed down everyone's throats to the protest of nearly forty thousand downvotes on the Canny. Didn't take long for them to charge for what mods and other social VR platforms do for free. Notice how development time now is spent on monetization, instead of fixing bugs and improving the existing system. I suppose the massive layoffs last year were to remove staff members who gave half a damn about the community. The rest aren't talking but you can figure it out from how angry Merlin got. (For those who don't recognize this name, he's the guy who brought us UdonSharp and was hired to overhaul the broken Udon system when he was suddenly fired.)

                @Reym Try setting up a transparent MITM proxy with a self-signed TLS cert. Your mileage might vary, given the ring-0 rootkit on the machine.

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                  @avatarofcorn ring-0?

                  I'm bad at understanding english word

                  I fix .vrca stuff for free and for fun! Depending on file, every outcome and vary might be different than the original avatar has due to the toggles and much more, send me a pm if you need an avi that i can ripp (public avatar only, private still risky, unless you have the cache of those avatar you can send them over for request for fix) and fix for you or cracking a password locked avatar or send me .vrca file or vrchat avatar link through my pms!

                  VRCHAT HAS ADDED SORT OF PROTECTION ON __DATA (aka .vrca or .vrcw) FILE, EVERY FUTURE REQUEST IS CLOSED UNTIL ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM FOR EXTRACTING FILE OUT IS MADE

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                    @Real-Visitor what if the connection download is intercepted? what would happen?

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                    "'Real' Visitor"
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                    @Reym Client users can still take pure VRCA files, due to them not being encrypted server side

                    Hi "Trusted" users
                    Maybe "Gumroad Fork" some day...

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                      I know nothing, but I have noticed that while the Avatar is in use a __lock file is created in that path. I cannot do anything with this file, but when unloaded it disappears.

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                        Greg77
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                        So once the file on the cache is encrypted there is no way to revert it?

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                          @Reym Client users can still take pure VRCA files, due to them not being encrypted server side

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                          Linze
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                          @Real-Visitor Is that possible to intercept pure vrca and transmit it to another folder after it has been downloaded instantly?

                          Free sharing is a costly charity.
                          Once sharing becomes others' resale, that's a monopoly.

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                            @trejectt Yep, saw one video where client user was able to extract avtr file w/o encryption. And from other source I found out that it is indeed client-sided. Files on VRC servers are still un-encrypted, and encrypted locally. So if anyone have a backup of previous VRC client version, they can still load and rip. Or wait for someone to decompile VRC and make another tool...

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                            Linze
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                            @Real-Visitor Do oculus ver or non steam version have same encryption?

                            Free sharing is a costly charity.
                            Once sharing becomes others' resale, that's a monopoly.

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                              @Hardware98 It was clear as day what the outcome would have been when EAC was rammed down everyone's throats to the protest of nearly forty thousand downvotes on the Canny. Didn't take long for them to charge for what mods and other social VR platforms do for free. Notice how development time now is spent on monetization, instead of fixing bugs and improving the existing system. I suppose the massive layoffs last year were to remove staff members who gave half a damn about the community. The rest aren't talking but you can figure it out from how angry Merlin got. (For those who don't recognize this name, he's the guy who brought us UdonSharp and was hired to overhaul the broken Udon system when he was suddenly fired.)

                              @Reym Try setting up a transparent MITM proxy with a self-signed TLS cert. Your mileage might vary, given the ring-0 rootkit on the machine.

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                              @avatarofcorn Yeah I remember that shit. I also downvoted, I think everyone did. Horrible way the platform is going honestly and it's only going to get worse. Genuinely hope they don't start putting ads in the game, but I see that as the next step. Hopefully people will protest then too.

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                                grapeishere
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                                so how do i rip now?

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                                • LinzeL Linze

                                  @Real-Visitor Is that possible to intercept pure vrca and transmit it to another folder after it has been downloaded instantly?

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                                  "'Real' Visitor"
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                                  @Linze Idk, if it stores that file temporarily somewhere, then possibly, but not sure.
                                  Give 90% that they store the file in ram.

                                  Hi "Trusted" users
                                  Maybe "Gumroad Fork" some day...

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                                    Reym
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                                    If we just read the ram, would that work?

                                    I'm bad at understanding english word

                                    I fix .vrca stuff for free and for fun! Depending on file, every outcome and vary might be different than the original avatar has due to the toggles and much more, send me a pm if you need an avi that i can ripp (public avatar only, private still risky, unless you have the cache of those avatar you can send them over for request for fix) and fix for you or cracking a password locked avatar or send me .vrca file or vrchat avatar link through my pms!

                                    VRCHAT HAS ADDED SORT OF PROTECTION ON __DATA (aka .vrca or .vrcw) FILE, EVERY FUTURE REQUEST IS CLOSED UNTIL ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM FOR EXTRACTING FILE OUT IS MADE

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                                      Linze
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                                      Maybe needs a RAM sniffing tool or Network Packets capturing tool

                                      Free sharing is a costly charity.
                                      Once sharing becomes others' resale, that's a monopoly.

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                                        chocolate
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                                        A certain mod developer says that "the encryption is being done server-side," but I don’t know what’s actually correct

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                                          A certain mod developer says that "the encryption is being done server-side," but I don’t know what’s actually correct

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                                          avatarofcorn
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                                          #32

                                          Dumping RAM should give you everything. Anyone want to see if the old Ninja Ripper trick works anymore?

                                          @chocolate It's not. That's not a good source of information.

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