LF: ˗ˏˋ꒰ DIGI ꒱ ˎˊ˗ by Strawbunny
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Just posting this as like a roughly put together a long crappy PSA for those unaware merely just to be helpful. Always remember safety first when buying from strangers on the internet!
(TLDR: Do not bother using or purchasing this product. Badly coded script that is non-consensually enforced on end-users, which you cannot opt-out of, and breaks everything. Why?? Gonso Licenced: You only have to remember; it's like, metaphorically speaking, Denuvo had a brainless, estranged cousin that your family doesn't like talking about. Everyone hates Gonso, they are a drug-addicted sociopath who will rob you in broad daylight and destroy your stuff just for not giving them enough money constantly each time you fall for their crocodile tears. Please avoid Gonso as they have no genuine intentions of fixing themselves for the better)
I would rather people be well-informed than in the dark, because no one bothered to mention it to newbies. I'll just copy and paste this to a few posts that have this defunct feature. Awareness is important during this global recession, which is debatably worse than the great depression at the time of writing this. Buying models and assets from some creators isn't cheap and is somewhat debated to not be worth the asking price for a free social VR platform.
As a side note, if you're new to virtual social platforms and don't know which creators are trustworthy, From what I hear, there is consensus wise on separate forums. Don't bother buying from Strawbunny, Noelia, Whituu, Aurl, etc. and giving them your hard-earned money. Do not buy from anyone who is close to Gonsodanny who is the person responsible for making the gonso licensing script. Including anyone trying to force the Gonso Licence more than once onto customers. They are more than likely benefiting from a maliciously lucrative operation behind closed doors with each other. They're too incompetent to run a business correctly and take their audience for granted too much.
Just because a big business like Adobe scammed millions of clients with over expensive subscriptions, spyware and maliciously confusing terms of service. It does not mean that it's appropriate to overinflate prices, charging $45–60 USD for a faulty product they kit bashed using other people's assets but act as if they made it all from scratch themselves. Sorry for the bad news. There are plenty of other products that are worth your time and money. Please be very careful who and where you buy stuff from.
This model has a "Gonso licence" listed if you check the specifications and credits. This product will likely be broken no matter what you do, and it is badly coded. You'll manually have to redo the entire FX, menus, and expressions from the ground up since the Gonso script breaks everything. The model will not function as intended even if you follow the instructions provided, and you may have to re-upload multiple times just for it to work properly (e.g. gesture expressions will not activate regardless of input, menus not working or the product will load in the game as invisible).
It will break as it has no future proofing, so I wouldn't recommend buying any gonso-infected models and just consider it as intentionally laced malware to keep yourself safe. It's not worth the trouble, seeing as these creators will not care to fix the things they caused and will try to gaslight you into thinking it's your fault. They are intentionally selling a faulty product to you to mock your intelligence as the end-user. No different how Adobe and Ubisoft treats their customers. They are lying to you when they claim you can edit and update it, no problem
Some creators who attempted to use said system for their products regret using it. This script only made things worse for themselves and their customers. This is installed via a paid commission done by Gonsodanny, and it is obvious based on feedback that Gonsodanny does not provide any technical support or troubleshooting afterwards to creators/end users. If a person refuses to clarify what something does and punishes you for asking a well-mannered simple question and hides crucial information. They are not innocently protecting their business... they're intentionally trying to scam you and do not care whatever happens to what you legally paid for just for doing the right thing.
Which is why the system ends up being dropped by some avatar creator's next project because it causes products to essentially turn into lost media as it strongly implies Gonsodanny does not provide them even just a basic manual for the script they commissioned them for. The tacttics are prety similar to how Denuvo treats game devs via fearmongering they'll go into debt without their anti-piracy script. Gonsodanny only provides help to their friends they like (hint - not hard to guess based on full star reviews and lack of valid constructive feedback). More than just a few witnesses have already confirmed their social circle is full of nepotism, lack of emotional/mental maturity and will give you second hand embarrassment by cosplaying as the impoverished in the public eye of their misinformed viewers. Despite these gaggles of geese being caught red-handed bragging about how much big money they earn to anyone they perceive as a rival or enemy.
For example, Strawbunny and Whituu are best buddies with not just each other, so naturally, all their models will be updated or released with the gonso script. The reason you may or may not have heard about it is due to some of these gonso-supporting creators having inappropriate para-social relationships with their audience, telling how much they 'love everyone' and only trusting whatever they say. That anyone that mentions them outside their sterilised echo chambers are just jealous, nasty people and big bad criminals. They do not love you; they only care if you're an advantage strictly to them, and infinite money to burn. They do not want peasants and the disadvantaged souls in their community buying their stuff. It's pretty obvious once you've stuck around long enough how many people get punished for not magically having whatever they want on command, like miss Veruca Salt from 1971 Willy Wonka & the Chocolate factory.
In summary, you cannot make edits to the model, and the script hard-wires itself to a specific Unity version and/or other items, so it will brick itself when the SDK requirements for uploading models change in the future. If you do naively fall for it by accident. That is not your fault, you were taken advantage of for giving a complete stranger the benefit of the doubt. Instead of a metaphorical expensive paper weight IRL, you will instead have a redundant file you can never salvage hogging space on your storage.
Thank you for coming to my mini TED Talk and hope you may of found this information useful. Good luck
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@Tali-Zorah First, you dont know gonsodany to say anything about what kind of person they are, second, you never spoke to them or anyone close to them or you would've seen that every time someone has questions or problems with any of the avatar they offer support on the moment (as anyone in these creator's servers can comfirm), third, what are you on about with the "benefiting from a maliciously lucrative operation behind closed doors", that was funny, fourth, the script doesnt break anything to anyone that follow the tos, as far as i know the script only breaks the avatar if the user is purposudely trying to fiddle with it, fifth, did they break your heart or something? why are you so obsessed with them?, sixth, any proof for literally anything you've just said? anything at all, any hint of a proof? because if not thats just a bunch of misinformation, and because of people like you creators have a bad taste and say all of us are toxic malicious people
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@BaldurPorta Forgot to mention that the script doesnt depend on unity version it works on any version, i've uploaded avatar with it in unity 2019 and unity 2022, as well as on past old sdks and new sdks, even on bloodborne
and you can edit the avatar, so to anyone reading that message, everything you said about it is just misinformation
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![@BaldurPorta sorry I missed your reply spam. Just occupied doing a few things and I just woke up from a catnap. I hear you, I see you. Not sure which thread to reply to for this so I’ll just put this on all your responses in case someone is utterly out of the loop with the convocation.
Hello and welcome to one of the many forums you can visit on the internet. I acknowledge the assertive passion in your comment that’s full of emotions saying the same thing.
I am a bit confused why you only seem to appear out of the void whenever someone talks about their bad experience and is confused by using the gonso system based on your post history. Could be just imaging things??
Especially in regards to strawbunny so far and I’ve chatted more than a few about their experiences interacting with western creators in public lobbies. It’s pretty common knowledge already that some western vr creators have a bad habit of overstepping their boundaries while using the ‘I’m small indie a business’ like a jail out of free card as an excuse. If this is genuinely the first time hearing about this then I am very sorry. Gotta be careful not to put your idols on a pedestal that could do no wrong which everyone has done by accident at least once.
Might be a good idea to improve your rep by chatting in different forums websites if you're not used to it. Most forums are open to socializing with you as along as you approach it with modest respect. Anywhosies… onto the comment
I’m glad you had a positive experience being an end user so good for you. However everyone’s experience is different and I can assure you that just because someone had a negative experience means that it invalidates your positive experience. If that makes sense yeah?
Just because you enjoy something means everyone else must love it as much as you do. The world isn’t as black and white expecting only the best praises. Not sure if you’re too young or innocently naive but that’s all good. I’ll try hard to clarify to see if I can accomodate you better.
Appreciate your time and effort chasing me around through threads but what I am doing is simply just letting people know they face certain risks buying something with a script that could add limitations to what they may decide to do with it. This is the internet after all and as soon as you release something out to the public. No one can control what might happen…who knows . Most users play vr social platforms casually and may not have the same values you may have which is pretty normal. Nothing wrong with that
They just want an avatar that they can fiddle with as much as they personally deem necessary and not into jumping through weird hoops. Trouble is that there is no official public store front page publicly available for the Gonso that guides newbies through as simple as possible in thorough detail that want to understand how to fully control it. Naturally people will assume it’s sketchy and judge it as malware if there’s little to no public information.
There are too many phishing scams in discord direct messages that most people just say stuff it and turn off access to their DMs to not deal with it.
A discord server does not count as a professional business platform, manual, troubleshooting support etc. because it’s meant as like a social hang out spot. IKEA doesn’t sell their furniture on discord but on an official site that gives end users the nitty gritty because they are a verified trustworthy company. Offer customer service that accommodate any skill or accessibility issue. Another example I could give you is It’s like buying a car… you’re not supposed to instantly buy it without test driving it first to avoid buyers remorse. It would be immature, reckless and financially irresponsible to not verify that car is the best one you could get your mitts on at the time.
Then again, if you don’t care about follow common internet safety advise any cybersecurity website would tell you when it comes to online shopping. You do you comrade. Just respect other people’s boundaries and being okay with the fact not everyone had your positive experience. My mum once got her card details yoinked and some random chick in America tried to buy expensive bikinis with it. My mum doesn’t even like to wear racy bikinis” ️](image url)
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@Tali-Zorah i could say the same thing about you, your only messages in this forum are about the gonso license, i could be seeing thing but....
As for the "reply spam", not sure what you're talking about seen that you were the one that spammed the message in 10 other posts
I also dont understand what you mean "especially in regards to strawbunny", the only time i've ever interacted with them was to get an avatar i couldnt afford at the time, and thats why i know they just offer discounts to whoever asks, for the rest of your accusations about them i cant talk because like i said i have no experiences with that creator
As for the "no guide" part of your comment, maybe it depends on the creator, because as far as i know, the avatars i have with it theres almost ever an upload guide video (im assuming the creator records it, or gonso idk), and anyone that asks for help on the creator's server, someone will ever answer your question
You're comparing a car, which theres only 1 and you cant just make copies, that if you dont return, it will be considered as stolen...To an item that is digital, you can make as many copies as possible, and arent forced to return.
But anyway, discord is no where just for socializing, mutliple servers of brands for people to ask for support, support about discord? go to discord's server. Support for vive? go to vive's discord. Support for slimevr? go to slimevr's discord. Support for vrchat? go to vrchat's server. I could keep going
As you well said, this is the internet and we cant stop anyone from comenting anything, what we can stop tho is the spread of misinformation and witch hunts
I respect everyones opinions when it comes to how you want to deal with your life, but one thing is not enjoying it or having a bad experience yourself with something, another thing is literally talking shit of a person you have 0 information about or ever even interacted with, and attacking their personal life like calling them "drug addict" or "sociopath" like, how do you go from "i've had a bad experience" to "they're a sociopath" and that they only want your money, when you've probably never talked to the person? Not mentioning that im pretty sure they have 0 saying when it comes to the avatar's price, as i've seen free avatars with it too, so the creator of the script gets 0 money from us, not sure why you're saying they're robbing us?
That part there has nothing to do with your personal experience and all to do with being toxic and spreading misinformation that could potentially hurt someone's name or personal life?
But i understand your point of view and i hope you have a great day, take care
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holy yapfest
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@m3lt3amilk yuhh lmao. Not sure why, when i tried hard to make it clear. Worse case, I know what to do anyway.
Probably just misunderstanding how text is mistranslated into someone's head i guess. I'm not exactly responsible for teaching how to understand a sentence
Who knows. They kind of remind me of that one poster that kept giving admin grief taking a single minus -1 internet brownie point. Half the recent post was just full of their spam and refused to calm da fuck down. I'm just vibing listing to music
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Okie dokie, let's see what I can do, so please be patient. It does not matter if you bother processing this in your mind. I've done my part by being a decent person, patching my end, and apologising even if you clearly do not deserve it. I haven't done something that horrific to justify the way you're treating me. I'm pretty certain most people would rather focus on the actual topic than you. At least, I am more than willing to try being friendly and diplomatic when people respond to what I say. I will always be open and try to respond. Even if I make a mistake or get frustrated with something
To be frank, it seems like you're taking a sentence too literally, and you're dissociating into a hysterical fit. It's not actually healthy or good for your wellbeing if you're struggling to do so. Maybe you need to take better care of yourself and go see a psychologist who can help you learn how to maintain your emotions and reduce stress. Hurting yourself over something realistically minor or trivial isn't good for you. Maybe you need to spend more time going outside and enjoying the fresh air for a week or so.
If you struggle with interpreting a sentence, Usually, some people who have neurodivergent conditions, such as autism, don't do well with sentences that could mean more than one thing or cannot read if there is a certain emotion in a sentence. If that is why, you're blowing something unnecessarily out of proportion.
Like, are you having a shitty week and don't realise you might be taking it out on utter strangers on the web? I'm trying to actually figure you out so I can do the bare minimum, being decent enough to help you understand what I'm trying to communicate, or if there is something wrong worrying your mind for you to act out badly?? I can keep re-paraphrasing it until it makes sense, but it's not my responsibility to teach you how to talk to people normally, how to debate with people, or how to understand what people are saying if you fail three times. Especially seeing as your behaviour clearly shows you aren't willing to listen when people are trying to be kind enough to help you resolve a misunderstanding.
You're processing what I say in your mind as an attack on you?? People might not trust you if they end up believing you're actually trying to disguise yourself as a spy and are likely a creator who does commit toxic behaviours.
If you feel personally offended and victimised about being called out for potentially being toxic, then maybe you need to actually get that checked out with a psychologist. The way you're presenting yourself roughly represents symptomatic narcissism. It doesn't matter if you were officially diagnosed or not, but it's possible to have rough symptomatic signs. For example, dysphoria is sometimes defined as a condition that is a preliminary stage of depression.
However, I never mentioned your name in my initial post. I don't recall Baldur Porta being a creator. Therefore, I have a hunch that you actually don't respect or understand what anyone says that conflicts with you. If you're dismissing what comes out, I can tell you're trying to silence whatever I say without rational thought. That is not a healthy and mature response.
Let's do this following activity slowly together so I can spell it out for you. For example, in your initial response, Oh, and before you pipe up, I'm cherry-picking. I'm not; I'm trying to make you look at your actions and at yourself in the mirror.
Let's look at a few lines you wrote:
"First, you don't know gonsodany to say anything about what kind of person they are; second, you never spoke to them or anyone close to them, or you would've seen that every time someone has questions or problems with any of the avatars, they offer support at the moment (as anyone on these creator's servers can confirm).
The problem with this is that you already have proven it (regardless if you have ever tried spending time alone without falling for common influencer tactics). You are not willing to take risks by travelling alone outside the influence of creators to see outside the box. You find traversing outside your own bubble too bothersome, intimidating, difficult, and not worth the effort. You don't even want to acknowledge news outside your own house not related to VRCchat or your favourite creators.
Furthermore, you're handicapping yourself by never internally questioning things. To learn about life, there is more to life; to genuinely improve your health; and to think autonomously for yourself. If you neglect your media literacy skills and never challenge yourself to improve your flaws, you are always striving to improve in order to advocate for yourself when you are alone.
I have to be firm and explicitly tell you that the only person who can truly save you is yourself. Your favourite creators, friends, family, and relationships are not the ones responsible for fixing you, and you're not responsible for fixing their problems. You need to quit being so dependent and teach yourself to feel content being alone so you can learn how to be with people. You won't be competent enough to ever be a healthy, positive, mature adult for long if you keep letting yourself down and being rude to anyone who doesn't think like you. The world isn't out to get you, especially.
I don't need to be friends or in a relationship with someone to figure out if someone is not healthy for me, which is a massive red flag. Mixing parasocial relationships and business together does not work. As people think that automatically means there aren't any boundaries to follow and can get away with emotionally using people for their own gain. If I do exactly what you said, then all I am doing is destroying all my efforts to not think like a hive-minded society and fend for myself for once.
"benefiting from a maliciously lucrative operation behind closed doors, that was funny"
did I say a joke here? Last time i checked, as of just now. No one in this thread is laughing with you or interpreting what I said as comedy. Clearly not. Keep in mind that sarcasm doesn't always mean that you should process it as a joke. You're clearly being condescending and want to be spitefully immature, not wanting to put on your grown-up adult pants.
"Did they break your heart or something? Why are you so obsessed with them?"
Ah yes, the old typical baiting tactic and trying to frame me as some crazy jealous ex?? You are pretty terrible at throwing a troll tactic. You are a very weird human being to be shipping two IRL humans together without their explicit consent. I mean, if you're upset because I'm not being a people-pleasing doormat and trying to help people avoid creators that are incapable of separating business and general relationships like an actual mature, healthy adult, I'm not sure how that is a bad thing—advocating for welfare and safety on the internet. Maybe we need to watch out for you because you don't want to be a decent human being.
Buddy.. You're coming at me irrationally, swinging an axe at my head like a serial killer, and it is not a good look on you. Please take better care of yourself and get plenty of sleep. There isn't any point for anyone here to have any discussions with you on any forum if this is what you think is 'debating' and casually having a discussion is. You do not have the necessary skills and knowledge to socialise.
I wish you good health and a lovely day. Regardless, if you're being rude and deliberately choosing to self-sabotage your life to avoid ramifications for your actions like a spoilt brat. Next time, instead of throwing shit like a troglodyte in a zoo enclosure, Please remember, people will only interact with you and bother to go out of their way to help you next time you demand for it if there is genuine mutual respect for being the bare minimum diplomatic.
Now Shoo! We have better things to do. Don't bother coming here if you're just going to be a cunt to everyone.
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I ain't reading allat, but anyways bump~ Some saint on here has been degonsoing her avatars already~
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bump :3
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