[ LF ]: NSFW Stylized Mesa Prime unity or avatar by:Silver2299
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Huh wondered why they deleted it?
@TheShepard Likely because the people who harrassed Silver2299 on the VRchat Servers popped by to do the exact same thing on X.
The likes of Alucard and Asgore are quick to blame the Rippers, when Silver2299 flat out tells us that the ACTUAL reason was because other people harassed Silver2299 online for having a sexy Stylized Mesa Avatar.
Such people DO exist on VRchat, by the way, and most of them are not reported. Asgore and Alucard are quick to blame rippers, but brazenly ignore what the WHOLE Tweet even said.
VRchat has a problem, but it is NOT the rippers. It is the toxic mindset of certain players who think that everything needs to go THEIR way.
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@TheShepard Likely because the people who harrassed Silver2299 on the VRchat Servers popped by to do the exact same thing on X.
The likes of Alucard and Asgore are quick to blame the Rippers, when Silver2299 flat out tells us that the ACTUAL reason was because other people harassed Silver2299 online for having a sexy Stylized Mesa Avatar.
Such people DO exist on VRchat, by the way, and most of them are not reported. Asgore and Alucard are quick to blame rippers, but brazenly ignore what the WHOLE Tweet even said.
VRchat has a problem, but it is NOT the rippers. It is the toxic mindset of certain players who think that everything needs to go THEIR way.
@Silence-056 Yeah, now I see the reason for the tweet being deleted. Man, you can't really enjoy anything without people harassing you over something like this.
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So, in.. extreme summary, Silver said he was gonna make Mesa public, but now isn't? Because two fence sitters started defending Silver after he received boat-loads of backlash for having a commission private..
To clarify, yes it's his commission and he gets all rights on what he wants to do with it, obviously. But just for the fact it's stylized shouldn't mean that he gets all rights to Mesa the character. She should to a degree be public, as she is not Silver's own personal character in any way shape or form, she's only stylized and was done as a paid commission. I personally find Silver as a weird individual for this and think of him as greedy/selfish.
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@TheShepard The original designe spacetato use from primebooba so mesa not belongs to him.
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So people are getting mad that he comissioned a PRIVATE avatar, and that he is KEEPING his PRIVATE avatar instead of giving it out????
Im at a loss for words, he PAID for it, why shouldnt HE own it???
Also the people that are saying that he doesnt own the design,which ngl is baffling to me.
the original design is mesa from warframe
then a different, more curvy design by primebooba
then a 3d model that spacetato made
which is then bought its rights by sliverat this point you might aswell just ask digital extremes (devs of warframe) for this mesa
Thank god i dont share my custom models here lmao
Like i wanna know if im missing something here, PLEASE
edit: im still getting downvoted without given a reason why lol
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@TheShepard Eh, to be honest, I much prefer Valkyr, Wisp and the Wolf frame anyway, so no real loss for me.
They are THREE of the better stylized frames out there, and Mesa kind of looked a bit dull to me.
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We need a Gyre Prime, or her deluxe skin...
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@TheShepard Eh, to be honest, I much prefer Valkyr, Wisp and the Wolf frame anyway, so no real loss for me.
They are THREE of the better stylized frames out there, and Mesa kind of looked a bit dull to me.
@Silence-056 I'm waiting for saryn and the pneuma skin for mag to be modeled. Also, there's still the possibility for the heirloom version to be pub, when DE eventuality announces a heirloom skin for mesa
Like I said before, I'll just com spacetato to make me mesa, if I'm allowed to do mesa
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@Silence-056 I'm waiting for saryn and the pneuma skin for mag to be modeled. Also, there's still the possibility for the heirloom version to be pub, when DE eventuality announces a heirloom skin for mesa
Like I said before, I'll just com spacetato to make me mesa, if I'm allowed to do mesa
@TheShepard Nothing really stopping you from comming Spacetato from making you a Heirloom Mesa, outside of your wallet.
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@TheShepard Nothing really stopping you from comming Spacetato from making you a Heirloom Mesa, outside of your wallet.
@Silence-056 Yeah, spacetato's prices are no joke and there's comes two problems if I were to comm him. 1, Gotta wait for Digital Extremes to announce a heirloom skin for mesa and wait for primebooba to draw her in they're style and 2, I don't wanna go through what silver just went through with they're mesa prime and it being private.
But in all honesty
I'd just asked spacetato just add something exclusive to me only on mesa -
Fair enough that Silver can have his commissioned Mesa to himself, but can we at least get a version of Mesa to the public? Even if it's just her default appearance (non-prime) since, Tato technically did that with Wisp, except she had the Gaoth helmet instead of her default one. I wouldn't mind if we just got a default, stylized Mesa instead of Silver's Prime Mesa..
Which, is still a bit confusing. I don't see how stylizing makes a character any different to who they actually are.. That'd be the same as me taking someone's OC, changing some details and then claiming it as mine but not changing the name.
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So people are getting mad that he comissioned a PRIVATE avatar, and that he is KEEPING his PRIVATE avatar instead of giving it out????
Im at a loss for words, he PAID for it, why shouldnt HE own it???
Also the people that are saying that he doesnt own the design,which ngl is baffling to me.
the original design is mesa from warframe
then a different, more curvy design by primebooba
then a 3d model that spacetato made
which is then bought its rights by sliverat this point you might aswell just ask digital extremes (devs of warframe) for this mesa
Thank god i dont share my custom models here lmao
Like i wanna know if im missing something here, PLEASE
edit: im still getting downvoted without given a reason why lol
@snatch_6 Pretty sure you're not gathering the obvious fact that, Silver commissioned an original pre-existing character to be remade in an NSFW manner, and paid for it. Which is, as I said, an equivalent of taking someone's OC, remaking it how you like and then slapping your name on it.
In summary, we believe it's not really fair to have something this great, being locked behind someone's account. Idk, say you found an avatar you really liked one day, wanted to have it to yourself, just to realize someone else has the rights to it despite it being a character from (insert cool game here) with just a few minor changes. Would that not feel a little stupid to you?
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@TheShepard Surprised he didn't say yes, he would've gotten a huge sum of money from doing this.. So would have Tato if he'd done the same thing, no?
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@snatch_6 Pretty sure you're not gathering the obvious fact that, Silver commissioned an original pre-existing character to be remade in an NSFW manner, and paid for it. Which is, as I said, an equivalent of taking someone's OC, remaking it how you like and then slapping your name on it.
In summary, we believe it's not really fair to have something this great, being locked behind someone's account. Idk, say you found an avatar you really liked one day, wanted to have it to yourself, just to realize someone else has the rights to it despite it being a character from (insert cool game here) with just a few minor changes. Would that not feel a little stupid to you?
@lollermsparko while yes, thats true, primebooba would have said something by now taking into account how popular these models are, so i suppose spacetato either made a deal or primebooba directly doesnt care
As for the second part, i DO see where youre coming from, however, isnt that kind of the point with most of these models?
By that i mean while the main objective is to obviusly look good (or in this case look thicc as hell) , isnt the point of being truly yours and that no one else has something similar the appeal aswell?
For example, i made an enderwoman model from the ground up not too long ago, even though it could definetly look better, im happy with how it came out and it would feel a lot less especial if everyone else had a copy, now would it?
(this also applies to stuff like texture edits and whatnot)Then again, i understand that this is mostly opinion-based, but i hope i made my point clear, much love yall :3
If im asking for bone count, its because i may be interested on making a vrc port
I make custom vrc texture edits and sometimes wholve vrc ports of blender models
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@lollermsparko while yes, thats true, primebooba would have said something by now taking into account how popular these models are, so i suppose spacetato either made a deal or primebooba directly doesnt care
As for the second part, i DO see where youre coming from, however, isnt that kind of the point with most of these models?
By that i mean while the main objective is to obviusly look good (or in this case look thicc as hell) , isnt the point of being truly yours and that no one else has something similar the appeal aswell?
For example, i made an enderwoman model from the ground up not too long ago, even though it could definetly look better, im happy with how it came out and it would feel a lot less especial if everyone else had a copy, now would it?
(this also applies to stuff like texture edits and whatnot)Then again, i understand that this is mostly opinion-based, but i hope i made my point clear, much love yall :3
@snatch_6 Yeah it would, but I'm not talking about exact copies. I'm saying we could've had something similar or an entirely different design. Spacetato could've made another Mesa at any time but hasn't. I don't know why but I'm having a creeping suspicion it's got something to do with Silver's commission of the Mesa Prime, following this now Tato doesn't think they should make another Mesa because then it'd make Silver's Mesa Prime seem less worth the money he spent. Which, wouldn't be the case at all, since we could have regular Mesa compared to Mesa Prime.
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@lollermsparko while yes, thats true, primebooba would have said something by now taking into account how popular these models are, so i suppose spacetato either made a deal or primebooba directly doesnt care
As for the second part, i DO see where youre coming from, however, isnt that kind of the point with most of these models?
By that i mean while the main objective is to obviusly look good (or in this case look thicc as hell) , isnt the point of being truly yours and that no one else has something similar the appeal aswell?
For example, i made an enderwoman model from the ground up not too long ago, even though it could definetly look better, im happy with how it came out and it would feel a lot less especial if everyone else had a copy, now would it?
(this also applies to stuff like texture edits and whatnot)Then again, i understand that this is mostly opinion-based, but i hope i made my point clear, much love yall :3
@snatch_6 Also, don't you find it a little weird that all it took to stop Silver from making the slightest amount of money from selling off his Mesa model for public only took words from his "lovers" and "friends" (their words not mine). I got a feeling that really, these lovers of his just favored for it to be private so they got the Mesa's horsecock all to themselves... As for the friends, I think it's a similar story, everyone on VrChat nowadays is beyond gooners and just want any form of sexual pleasure and collecting phantom senses like they're fucking medals.
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