[ LF ]: NSFW Stylized Mesa Prime unity or avatar by:Silver2299
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So people are getting mad that he comissioned a PRIVATE avatar, and that he is KEEPING his PRIVATE avatar instead of giving it out????
Im at a loss for words, he PAID for it, why shouldnt HE own it???
Also the people that are saying that he doesnt own the design,which ngl is baffling to me.
the original design is mesa from warframe
then a different, more curvy design by primebooba
then a 3d model that spacetato made
which is then bought its rights by sliverat this point you might aswell just ask digital extremes (devs of warframe) for this mesa
Thank god i dont share my custom models here lmao
Like i wanna know if im missing something here, PLEASE
edit: im still getting downvoted without given a reason why lol
@snatch_6 Pretty sure you're not gathering the obvious fact that, Silver commissioned an original pre-existing character to be remade in an NSFW manner, and paid for it. Which is, as I said, an equivalent of taking someone's OC, remaking it how you like and then slapping your name on it.
In summary, we believe it's not really fair to have something this great, being locked behind someone's account. Idk, say you found an avatar you really liked one day, wanted to have it to yourself, just to realize someone else has the rights to it despite it being a character from (insert cool game here) with just a few minor changes. Would that not feel a little stupid to you?
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@TheShepard Surprised he didn't say yes, he would've gotten a huge sum of money from doing this.. So would have Tato if he'd done the same thing, no?
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@snatch_6 Pretty sure you're not gathering the obvious fact that, Silver commissioned an original pre-existing character to be remade in an NSFW manner, and paid for it. Which is, as I said, an equivalent of taking someone's OC, remaking it how you like and then slapping your name on it.
In summary, we believe it's not really fair to have something this great, being locked behind someone's account. Idk, say you found an avatar you really liked one day, wanted to have it to yourself, just to realize someone else has the rights to it despite it being a character from (insert cool game here) with just a few minor changes. Would that not feel a little stupid to you?
@lollermsparko while yes, thats true, primebooba would have said something by now taking into account how popular these models are, so i suppose spacetato either made a deal or primebooba directly doesnt care
As for the second part, i DO see where youre coming from, however, isnt that kind of the point with most of these models?
By that i mean while the main objective is to obviusly look good (or in this case look thicc as hell) , isnt the point of being truly yours and that no one else has something similar the appeal aswell?
For example, i made an enderwoman model from the ground up not too long ago, even though it could definetly look better, im happy with how it came out and it would feel a lot less especial if everyone else had a copy, now would it?
(this also applies to stuff like texture edits and whatnot)Then again, i understand that this is mostly opinion-based, but i hope i made my point clear, much love yall :3
If im asking for bone count, its because i may be interested on making a vrc port
I make custom vrc texture edits and sometimes wholve vrc ports of blender models
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@lollermsparko while yes, thats true, primebooba would have said something by now taking into account how popular these models are, so i suppose spacetato either made a deal or primebooba directly doesnt care
As for the second part, i DO see where youre coming from, however, isnt that kind of the point with most of these models?
By that i mean while the main objective is to obviusly look good (or in this case look thicc as hell) , isnt the point of being truly yours and that no one else has something similar the appeal aswell?
For example, i made an enderwoman model from the ground up not too long ago, even though it could definetly look better, im happy with how it came out and it would feel a lot less especial if everyone else had a copy, now would it?
(this also applies to stuff like texture edits and whatnot)Then again, i understand that this is mostly opinion-based, but i hope i made my point clear, much love yall :3
@snatch_6 Yeah it would, but I'm not talking about exact copies. I'm saying we could've had something similar or an entirely different design. Spacetato could've made another Mesa at any time but hasn't. I don't know why but I'm having a creeping suspicion it's got something to do with Silver's commission of the Mesa Prime, following this now Tato doesn't think they should make another Mesa because then it'd make Silver's Mesa Prime seem less worth the money he spent. Which, wouldn't be the case at all, since we could have regular Mesa compared to Mesa Prime.
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@lollermsparko while yes, thats true, primebooba would have said something by now taking into account how popular these models are, so i suppose spacetato either made a deal or primebooba directly doesnt care
As for the second part, i DO see where youre coming from, however, isnt that kind of the point with most of these models?
By that i mean while the main objective is to obviusly look good (or in this case look thicc as hell) , isnt the point of being truly yours and that no one else has something similar the appeal aswell?
For example, i made an enderwoman model from the ground up not too long ago, even though it could definetly look better, im happy with how it came out and it would feel a lot less especial if everyone else had a copy, now would it?
(this also applies to stuff like texture edits and whatnot)Then again, i understand that this is mostly opinion-based, but i hope i made my point clear, much love yall :3
@snatch_6 Also, don't you find it a little weird that all it took to stop Silver from making the slightest amount of money from selling off his Mesa model for public only took words from his "lovers" and "friends" (their words not mine). I got a feeling that really, these lovers of his just favored for it to be private so they got the Mesa's horsecock all to themselves... As for the friends, I think it's a similar story, everyone on VrChat nowadays is beyond gooners and just want any form of sexual pleasure and collecting phantom senses like they're fucking medals.
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@snatch_6 Also, don't you find it a little weird that all it took to stop Silver from making the slightest amount of money from selling off his Mesa model for public only took words from his "lovers" and "friends" (their words not mine). I got a feeling that really, these lovers of his just favored for it to be private so they got the Mesa's horsecock all to themselves... As for the friends, I think it's a similar story, everyone on VrChat nowadays is beyond gooners and just want any form of sexual pleasure and collecting phantom senses like they're fucking medals.
@lollermsparko said in [ LF ]: NSFW Stylized Mesa Prime unity or avatar by:Silver2299:
! everyone on VrChat nowadays is beyond gooners and just want any form of sexual pleasure and collecting phantom senses like they're fucking medals.LMFAO. You're not wrong
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@snatch_6 Yeah it would, but I'm not talking about exact copies. I'm saying we could've had something similar or an entirely different design. Spacetato could've made another Mesa at any time but hasn't. I don't know why but I'm having a creeping suspicion it's got something to do with Silver's commission of the Mesa Prime, following this now Tato doesn't think they should make another Mesa because then it'd make Silver's Mesa Prime seem less worth the money he spent. Which, wouldn't be the case at all, since we could have regular Mesa compared to Mesa Prime.
@lollermsparko hmm, thats true , a similar version should be fine ig, also that is the most accurate vrchat community description i have ever heard
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Deadass someone should just commission a similar style from someone else with cheaper prices or something i've been seeing rips of the koumei but like genuinely no one wants to share it and its like lowkey ugh.
@Zantara tried asking tato how much it would be to get a differnt version of mesa but dog never responded
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That's sad, that Mesa looks really cool
@balmashev93 We did what we can we never get mesa its need accept this
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@balmashev93 We did what we can we never get mesa its need accept this
@Kerigan_Reigan at least we can enjoy screenshots from Silver, they do amazing job with that av tbh
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All right so I did some digging and it turns out that the person who originally had the Avatar was harassed because they spent their own hard earned 500 to 1000 dollars on something for themselves and people felt entitled that they shouldn't have it themselves. that's something being the Mesa Avatar.
They got so pressured that they considered selling it but they backtracked on it because after all they have no obligation to sell something that they spend money on.
but now the fallout of this whole thing has left the person they commissioned who makes really good avatars no longer accept commissions for Warframe avatars because this wasn't the only person who was harassed about commissioning a stylized Warframe model from scratch.
I really was considering commissioning the person myself but I don't think I can now because as I said before it doesn't seem like they're going to be accepting any more commissions for stylized Warframes
In short, complainers have ruined another good thing for other people : P
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Can't we find an alternative? Just to shut everyone up already?
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Can't we find an alternative? Just to shut everyone up already?
@lollermsparko i tried that i acutal went to tato themselves and offered to pay for a version of mesa everyone could have and they straight up ghosted me
Im a women i just named my profile king
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@lollermsparko i tried that i acutal went to tato themselves and offered to pay for a version of mesa everyone could have and they straight up ghosted me
@kingtiger88 Not, that.. I meant like an entire alternative, such as someone taking it up in blender themselves and making it, the artist who Tato used for all the designs draws plenty, most of their stuff can be found on kemono, so if you want references you can head there and start making.
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@kingtiger88 Not, that.. I meant like an entire alternative, such as someone taking it up in blender themselves and making it, the artist who Tato used for all the designs draws plenty, most of their stuff can be found on kemono, so if you want references you can head there and start making.
@lollermsparko well then you would need a willing person to spend time modeling and rigging it in blender.... HEAR ME OUT. Ripper forum community pitches in, we all take 2 dollars each. pay them for the avi and there we go. custom forum sourced avatars./hj
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