LF: CYANT by Torinyan (and additional assets)
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@reuutsuho let me say you have done a great thing here and my you days be filled with joy and you luck be 20 times over.
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https://workupload.com/file/4R9Nak3QY6G
Don't even try to report it, Tori, I will keep uploading it if it goes down.
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I don't really see how hard it is to wait 2 weeks before using this. Is it too much to ask to respect Tori in that regard? They're being kind enough to not care (or I assume threaten a DMCA? Going off what I read) as long as their sales aren't affected. 2 weeks isn't that much time to wait.
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I dont see the problem in waiting or not plus if it were not for the creator of these things we would not have nice avi's and before I also get attacked YES I did download it from here ..HOWEVER I also did go and buy it for myself after I tried it out So please be respectful on here and to Tori or any creator you get stuff from~
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I don't know if workupload is working for people or not so here's three more mirrors
https://we.tl/t-5X0SbTcfFc
https://pixeldrain.com/u/NR3TtXqn
https://mega.nz/file/UItHEAJa#S9g5bj8bd6tXiFIkNnMv-BndCmENPtXlOphuWfjjN0UEve already said this model is selling "extremely well" so I feel no sympathy for them trying to take this down, maybe don't charge the price of Baldur's Gate 3 for a model that's gonna have more DLC than a Koei Tecmo game.
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@Testing12 Nah we wanted to see if it sells first before we added stuff like that, it does.
Gun is being made holdable and shootable, also normal legs planned. The Gun update is free ofc.
The laser turret will probably also get a free update, maybe with head tracking..?
Any maybe for the facetracked version make it aim at wherever your eyes track, not sure yet... -
Are we going to see accessories that cost nearly as much as the avatar itself again, as was the case with Runa's robogf addon?
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Are you expecting free work or something? Sorry, for not selling 30 kitbashed Avatars.
The original Avatar is good, it's being sold, then we work on an attachment. Of course we expect to get paid for the newly made thing.
If we sell 3000 attachment for Runa, then of course the full thing will be expensive af but it also means we made 3000 new things LOL.What kind of logic is this supposed to be? Robo GF Add-On was also 2 Sets of booba, a pussy-plate, a dick and an interior animated pump.
I also put a lot of value into making sure that the released Avatars don't drop your friends FPS by 30 for just existing. Okay, optimization is not a cool funny feature to use, but it's pretty damn important and makes the creation process really hard and lengthy sometimes.Cyant01 for example is 64k Poly, sorry but I'm really proud of that fact. Making completely new legs will be the work of 30-40% of making an Avatar from scratch again, how would you price that for example?
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@C0-Eve said in LF: CYANT by Torinyan (and additional assets):
Are you expecting free work or something? Sorry, for not selling 30 kitbashed Avatars.
The original Avatar is good, it's being sold, then we work on an attachment. Of course we expect to get paid for the newly made thing.
If we sell 3000 attachment for Runa, then of course the full thing will be expensive af but it also means we made 3000 new things LOL.What kind of logic is this supposed to be? Robo GF Add-On was also 2 Sets of booba, a pussy-plate, a dick and an interior animated pump.
I also put a lot of value into making sure that the released Avatars don't drop your friends FPS by 30 for just existing. Okay, optimization is not a cool funny feature to use, but it's pretty damn important and makes the creation process really hard and lengthy sometimes.Cyant01 for example is 64k Poly, sorry but I'm really proud of that fact. Making completely new legs will be the work of 30-40% of making an Avatar from scratch again, how would you price that for example?
You've really dropped the ball with that response.
No, I'm not asking you to release free addons. As a matter of fact, I've purchased several of your avatars (including Runa) and accessories along with several accessories made by others.
HOWEVER...there is a limit on how much I'm willing to spend for a single avatar/accessory, Runa and especially the accessories available to her have been hitting those limits more often than most other base models and their accessories. As a result, customizing Runa gets more expensive than most avatars and their respective accessories that I tend to buy from...BOOTH.
Not the Gumroad kitbash trash that you seem to be referring to.
And I've decided to be more supportive and bought a lot of avatars this year (nearly 40 throughout 2023, last I checked), along with accessories and additional outfits for some of them.
I was thinking about actually buying Cyant this month, but this...
Are you expecting free work or something? Sorry, for not selling 30 kitbashed Avatars.
I may have to reconsider after that.
But if you want a suggestion for the price of those legs, I'd say no more than half of Cyant's base price.
Honestly, you and Tori could've sold Runa with the robogf upgrade built-in as an entirely separate NSFW version for a bit more than the default Runa, let the customer decide on which version to buy, and that would've been more acceptable (as long as it's not nearly double or triple the price of the SFW version). Several creators on Booth have already been doing that for ages, and it works for them.
Bonus points if you'd have made the SFW B0-0BA upgrade a part of the default Runa in the beginning and add $10 to the base price to compensate.
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@C0-Eve said in LF: CYANT by Torinyan (and additional assets):
Are you expecting free work or something? Sorry, for not selling 30 kitbashed Avatars.
The original Avatar is good, it's being sold, then we work on an attachment. Of course we expect to get paid for the newly made thing.You couldn't have missed the point harder if you tried, nobody is asking you to work for free, read the room. What people (like myself) are saying is that you are on the ENTERTAINMENT business, you don't sell models to enterprise, you sell models to people, for fun, as an avatar that they will probably only use with a single platform. You asking 60 dollars for a singular 3D model, as from scratch as it may be, it's absolutely ridiculous. With the quality of the avatar itself you would get double, triple the amount of people by simply being more affordable for the use case of the model, add a business license if you wanna suck some extra money off people with more use for the model than going to The Great Pug.
If we sell 3000 attachment for Runa, then of course the full thing will be expensive af but it also means we made 3000 new things LOL.
What kind of logic is this supposed to be? Robo GF Add-On was also 2 Sets of booba, a pussy-plate, a dick and an interior animated pump.
Let's make a quick price breakdown here, shall we? Runa costs 50$, with no other accessories, hairs, outfits, or almost any toggles. Then say you wanna have at least some breast sizes, an outfit and some hairs. Then that's another 30$, way more expensive than customizing any original model from booth, not even an e-girl from gumroad.
But the worst offender by far is the Robot gf upgrade, cause you NEED the Endoskeleton to get the full value of the already expensive 45$, that's a 60$ DLC. The DLC for the model is MORE EXPENSIVE than the model itself. Please read this carefully and tell me with a straight face that those pieces of customization deserve a higher price tag than the whole model on its own. Let me tell you looking at literally any good and popular booth model: they're not worth that much. Not even by a long shot.
I also put a lot of value into making sure that the released Avatars don't drop your friends FPS by 30 for just existing. Okay, optimization is not a cool funny feature to use, but it's pretty damn important and makes the creation process really hard and lengthy sometimes.
Cyant01 for example is 64k Poly, sorry but I'm really proud of that fact. Making completely new legs will be the work of 30-40% of making an Avatar from scratch again, how would you price that for example?
Props to you for actually bothering to optimize the models, but at the end of the day that's your choice as a creator, nobody ever buys avatars based on performance, people don't care they are 99% very poor, and the people who care will optimize it on their own accord and time. You don't get to decide something like that in the behalf of people who might not even care and then say they have to pay extra because of it.
As for your question, considering you already charge 60 bucks for the base avatar, 15 bucks. Price stuff according to the value of the whole, not on its own.
Also I will say that I bought Cherrycubus the moment she came out, 45 bucks for an avatar with a bunch of outfits, unique interactions and toggles? Super good value and I was fine supporting that. But this whole business with the robot avatars? Terrible value doesn't even begin to describe if you want even the most basic customization.