LF: Hokus Pokus by Lil Miss Pasta (FOUND by crystaldustie)
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Just a quick bump to give everyone a heads-up. The creator has applied a Gonso Licence to Hokus Pokus which requires a licence code to unlock, which can be found on the installation guide for the model. More creators are using the Gonso system (e.g. Uniii by Naiii)
To your license key is needed for uploading the avatar, after using your license key it will be locked to the account you have uploaded the avatar to
HOW TO: Access the Gonso Licenser window located at the top of the interface. Enter your valid license key into the designated field and proceed by selecting the 'Unlock' option". After that, your avatar will appear on the scene.
In other words, it is very difficult to share any avatars that creators apply the Gonso licensing system, since it locks to that one account only. Judging from what is implied how it functions, I don't think you can transfer the licence to a different account either. So, if you lose your vrc account. It is likely the avatar might not be recoverable since it is stuck with the account you uploaded it on.
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@LizEllie Thank you for this warning, do you know if it was applied out-of-box to Hokus or retroactively, at all?
Unrelated addendum: .VRCA of Hokus has been located
DM/PM me opening with context, feel free to at any time
Ace-Agen, no horny no gender. Just here to look for jiggly avatars, maybe making them ~48H-cup -
@Rando I have tried digging around for any digital storefront for the Gonso thingy with not much luck. However, when I dig through the discords of the creators that have the Gonso systems installed on their avatars.
There seems to be one particular individual that pops up that seems to know what they're talking about. I would take it with a grain of salt, for now they could be the creator of said Gonso system, maybe? Based on having a username similar to the system, but I could be incorrect. Their name is Gonsodany (Discord - gonsodany#8035).
I did look into their discord server, but as far as I found, there still isn't a digital store for the public. So my theory based on the fact they do commissions is they sell the Gonso system via direct DMs with a manual and troubleshooting guide for creators to step up themselves. So they would know the ins and outs of how the system works and safely be able to remove the feature without issue. The other is that he does commissions where he installs the system for these creators that want it on their avatars
I do apologise if I couldn't find any useful information. I think possibly the only option is to give it a few months as more information about the system comes out later. Not sure if anyone will be able to remove it unless they knew the technicalities on how it runs on unity and coding. It would be a bit risky to not have a failsafe, since Unity can be a bit silly sometimes.
Until then, don't feel guilty if you have to buy it. I know, it kinda defeats the purpose. However, maybe one day there will be a better understanding. Not sure how long the system will last until someone ends up cracking it finding a failsafe/workaround.
Apparently in the western market, protection services have been used before, but eventually they end up failing due to incompatibility with various assets/software in unity or someone figures out how to remove or turn it off
Please note, it is highly not recommended attempting to upload the avatar, even if you somehow manage to obtain it illegally via other means other than purchasing the avatars yourself. As you will be blacklisted from both the creator's server and their shop, so you won't be able to buy anything in future. Since apparently the system will send your VRC username and be placed on a blacklist. I don't know if the dev of the Gonso system gets notified as well though
I only discuss eastern market products such as BOOTH.
I'm not interested in western market creator communities in general due to their lack of maturity, respect & professionalism in general. Too much toxicity, sociopathy & narcissism. Especially greed.
Abuse & stalking is still wrong no matter what. No one explicitly consented to being treated badly. If something is not in your circle of control that you cannot adjust. Do not think nor worry about it anymore.
Unethical businesses do not deserve to have an audience nor to be supported.
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@LizEllie I've gotten word that the individual in question is a former beta tester of an avatar recovery +/ ripping tool, one for well-meaning folk only unlike this site, formerly known as A.R.E.S.
Currently, the tool is being called S.A.R.S. and is coming to and end of life, yet again changing its name in a rebirth into A.R.C.
As confusing as I know I'm making it, think of it as different names for a 1.x.x 2.x.x 3.0.0 for the same program, the base code being re-written. But they are a known user there, and supposedly a good one. What they have made is apparently another form of an avatar anti-rip protection system, similar to that of AvatarGuard (now dead due to VRC's very recent, idiotic security checks update, killing it with a strong malice), DexProtect, and KannaProtecc.
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@LizEllie I see, thank you for the warning and info! ^_^
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Well, to give a quick update on my end of things since I will be going on a break for a while to spend more time taking care of myself and spend time with loved ones.
To not bore you to tears my health has not been too good for the past two years or so which happens to anyone at some point.
Not protecting or defending the forum per se. Doing it because we have rights as the audience to question the quality and safety of a product when we are debating if it’s worth buying. Need to show this since I do not think it was really a rational, fair and mature response to have thrown at me.
I know that not all creators are like this and actually treat their audience with decency. Trouble is, there are far more toxic creators than there are good ones.
Honestly, just because I am on a forum that cannot be censored by these creators means stalking, abusing, and twisting the rhetoric of what I said earlier, and on others posts who I noted have the gonso system. It is not a valid reason to treat anyone badly for using their own skills as a consumer to protect themselves.
Choosing to do the right thing for myself, being a responsible person by trying to find information to help me understand as a consumer. Authorities like consumer watchdogs recommend that you always verify the product by investigating the seller and how they treat audiences/customers.
Abuse is abuse. No excuses, no matter your reasons. You are not a good individual nor creator if you feel the need to abuse and violate a complete stranger’s privacy to validate your actions.
For example, just because I get bad feedback on a task I completed means it is a morally correct decision to find someone’s home address and go bully them.
Some creators will use their position for the wrong reasons.
Historically, trying to overcontrol something and failing has happened in history before multiple times when entities have tried controlling something and made it much worse. Which was what i was referring to.
Creators are not exempted from this factor. No one is, actually, not even me. When something is released into the world, it is no longer in your control but to unpredictability. Anything could happen, both good and bad.
For instance, introducing foreign animals to use as pest control only to end up as another problem. Where the foreign animals become the new invasive species causing damage to the environment.
Even when I clearly said and recommend buying their product. I was punished anyway.
My hobby is avatars, not learning how to code or fiddling with unity packages. Just because I visit the Nexus forums to mod Stardew Valley, so I can customise my character means I can hack into NASA for instance.
So, I’m not allowed to talk about any research topics, refer people to go buy someone products and the dev who made the function. All I did was merely suggest a safer way of fixing the issue.
The only reason I said to not feel guilty for buying it is because I genuinely understand buying digital products is always a gamble since consumers are not protected as much when it comes to areas like this.
When there have been repeated events reported around the community of incidents that have happened in Discord creator communities. It is getting harder for me to trust anyone is a genuinely decent person, and I feel more isolated each day. It is no longer a community nor a safe space when it turns into Lord Of The Flies or The Hunger Games.
If you never respected your audience and consumers, then all you perceive them is an asset/resource to take advantage and abuse only to benefit yourself and ruin others, just like any other unethical business.
We are expected to just blindly trust the validity of a creator regardless. Trouble is, it is hard to separate a creator to their works when they start behaving badly and not explaining anything to the consumer.
For instance, when you buy appliances, they always have a heavily and clearly detailed manual and troubleshooting guide anyone can understand. If that does not work, they have support services with professional people that treat you with respect, bare minimum.
In most business to consumer relationships. It does not matter what country you are in. If businesses commit anti-consumerist tactics or obscure vital information that could genuinely affect consumers in negative ways. We are always advised as a security and safety measure to no longer buy stuff from that shop, do not interact with the community and go somewhere else.
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i have the files working i rebuilt the avatar and made a fully working
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@crystaldustie May we please?
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sure hang on
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